Dear All,
I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
bean cake ) how the connection
between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
stories about soy, but it is accordantly
to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
information.
Many Regards,
Irma
"ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
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> Dear All,
> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
> bean cake ) how the connection
> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
> information.
Soy can exacerbate thyroid problems and thyroid problems are common in
diabetics.
"Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
> news:48d90d90-3734-4fa5-92d7-4eae91574465@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com…
>> Dear All,
>> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
>> bean cake ) how the connection
>> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
>> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
>> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
>> information.
> Soy can exacerbate thyroid problems and thyroid problems are common in
> diabetics.
You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst, like
in thyroid problems.
But the soy compond in soybeans and the soy in tempeh is not exactly the
same. In tempeh, during the fermentation process, the enzymes secreted by
the yeast have broken down the soy proteins into simple amino acids. And
makes tempeh much more tolerable to people with thyroid problems, so I read.
But if you have other information about the "dangers" of good quality tempeh
that we don’t know yet, please post.
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You can find an excellent site on tempeh at:
http://www.soytempeh.com
"ir" <tempehstar…@aol.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 24, 9:15 am, ir <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
> bean cake ) how the connection
> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
> information.
> Many Regards,
> Irma
tempeh is fermentated soy bean cake, and destroys parts of the protein
of the soy, and createds this way and excellent diet
nir
"Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> "ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
>> news:48d90d90-3734-4fa5-92d7-4eae91574465@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com…
>>> Dear All,
>>> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
>>> bean cake ) how the connection
>>> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
>>> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
>>> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
>>> information.
>> Soy can exacerbate thyroid problems and thyroid problems are common in
>> diabetics.
> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst, like
> in thyroid problems.
> But the soy compond in soybeans and the soy in tempeh is not exactly the
> same. In tempeh, during the fermentation process, the enzymes secreted by
> the yeast have broken down the soy proteins into simple amino acids. And
> makes tempeh much more tolerable to people with thyroid problems, so I
> read.
> But if you have other information about the "dangers" of good quality
> tempeh that we don’t know yet, please post.
Uh, no. Soy allergy and thyroid problems are two different things. Soy is
a goitrogen.
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> "Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote in message
> news:g8stc2$1kv$1@aioe.org…
>> "Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:g8s38h$vuu$1@aioe.org…
>>> "ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
>>> news:48d90d90-3734-4fa5-92d7-4eae91574465@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com…
>>>> Dear All,
>>>> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
>>>> bean cake ) how the connection
>>>> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
>>>> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
>>>> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
>>>> information.
>>> Soy can exacerbate thyroid problems and thyroid problems are common in
>>> diabetics.
>> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst,
>> like in thyroid problems.
>> But the soy compond in soybeans and the soy in tempeh is not exactly the
>> same. In tempeh, during the fermentation process, the enzymes secreted by
>> the yeast have broken down the soy proteins into simple amino acids. And
>> makes tempeh much more tolerable to people with thyroid problems, so I
>> read.
>> But if you have other information about the "dangers" of good quality
>> tempeh that we don’t know yet, please post.
> Uh, no. Soy allergy and thyroid problems are two different things. Soy
> is a goitrogen.
Hmmmm……in Indonesia millions of people have and are still consuming
tempeh for decades, or perhaps centuries. In America and Canada people are
also consuming tempeh in increasingly large numbers.
I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is no
longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
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Raja Singa wrote:
> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is no
> longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
you may be ‘sure the FDA’ will interfere with the sale of tempeh
soy causes thyroid problems
i’m allergic to strawberries and so are many other people
this does NOT mean the FDA will interfere with the sale of strawberries
–
kate
type 1 since 1987
http://www.diabetic-chat.org
http://www.diabetic-talk.org
http://www.diabetes-support.org.uk/newly%20diagnosed.html
"Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote in message
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> "Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>> "Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote in message
>> news:g8stc2$1kv$1@aioe.org…
>>> "Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>>>> "ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:48d90d90-3734-4fa5-92d7-4eae91574465@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com…
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
>>>>> bean cake ) how the connection
>>>>> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
>>>>> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
>>>>> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
>>>>> information.
>>>> Soy can exacerbate thyroid problems and thyroid problems are common in
>>>> diabetics.
>>> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst,
>>> like in thyroid problems.
>>> But the soy compond in soybeans and the soy in tempeh is not exactly the
>>> same. In tempeh, during the fermentation process, the enzymes secreted
>>> by the yeast have broken down the soy proteins into simple amino acids.
>>> And makes tempeh much more tolerable to people with thyroid problems, so
>>> I read.
>>> But if you have other information about the "dangers" of good quality
>>> tempeh that we don’t know yet, please post.
>> Uh, no. Soy allergy and thyroid problems are two different things. Soy
>> is a goitrogen.
> Hmmmm……in Indonesia millions of people have and are still consuming
> tempeh for decades, or perhaps centuries. In America and Canada people are
> also consuming tempeh in increasingly large numbers.
> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is no
> longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
Once again you read it wrong. I said it exacerbates thyroid problems. Not
causes them.
"Susan" <neverm…@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> Raja Singa wrote:
>> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst,
>> like in thyroid problems.
> No, it’s not allergy, there are compounds in soy and in cruciferous
> veggies that are goitrogenic. Some folks with thyroid disorder cannot
> tolerate them for that reason, not allergy.
Let us know if you are aware of people eating good tempeh, even those with
thyroid problems, who got sick, or sicker.
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> Susan
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst,
>>> like in thyroid problems.
>> No, it’s not allergy, there are compounds in soy and in cruciferous
>> veggies that are goitrogenic. Some folks with thyroid disorder cannot
>> tolerate them for that reason, not allergy.
> Let us know if you are aware of people eating good tempeh, even those with
> thyroid problems, who got sick, or sicker.
You don’t necessarily get sick with a thyroid problem. I stopped all forms
of soy and I no longer have a thyroid problem.
In alot of studies ive seen soy is estrogenic..especially in males with high
adipose tissue…it can spark gyno <boobs>…so i dont rely on soy as a
protien source personally.
KROM
"ir" <tem…@tempehonline.com> wrote in message
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> Dear All,
> I am just wondering because of my gigantic interest in tempeh ( soy
> bean cake ) how the connection
> between soy and diabetic is seen in the healt secor, we here so many
> stories about soy, but it is accordantly
> to the most experts an excelent B 12 source, visit my website for more
> information.
> Many Regards,
> Irma
In indonesia portion sizes are greatly smaller then a american would eat for
one and from all i have seen and read about thier diets soy products are use
much like meat…as a small addition to veggies and starch..almost as a
flavoring or texture enhancer.
It isnt like they are eating two pounds of it a day.
In america people tend to go overboard and the new soy converts will drink
soy milk and eat soy sausages and eggs with tofu for breakfast…soy
processed sandwhich meat on soy flour bread for luch and snack on soynuts as
a snack etc etc
If you are eating soy once or twice a week along with other healthy things
you problably will be fine…i just personally enjoy meat as my protien
source so i dont need soy products.
KROM
"Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote
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> Hmmmm……in Indonesia millions of people have and are still consuming
> tempeh for decades, or perhaps centuries. In America and Canada people are
> also consuming tempeh in increasingly large numbers.
> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is no
> longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
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Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> Raja Singa wrote:
>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for some
> folks with thyroid disorder.
> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey alternative
> medicine crap.
> Susan
Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you don’t
believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or funding for
St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent danger’ to eating
peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to allergies. So by your
standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food labeling.
I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
"Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote in message
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>> You may be right that soy can make people with soy allergy get worst,
>>> like in thyroid problems.
>> No, it’s not allergy, there are compounds in soy and in cruciferous
>> veggies that are goitrogenic. Some folks with thyroid disorder cannot
>> tolerate them for that reason, not allergy.
> Let us know if you are aware of people eating good tempeh, even those with
> thyroid problems, who got sick, or sicker.
>> Susan
This newsgroup may be a place to get a better answer:
alt.support.thyroid
You might also try a few web sites, such as:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=126
<http://thyroid.about.com/od/thyroidbasicsthyroid101/ss/preventthyroid…>
http://www.thyroidawarenessmonth.com/
<http://www.rebuild-from-depression.com/blog/2007/12/soy_and_phytic_ac…>
<http://www.bartonpublishing.com/blog/2008/08/12/tofu-tempeh-and-your-…>
Ack..lol..is avapro a statin?…lol
jus’ say no to Moobs!
heh
KROM
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> x-no-archive: yes
> krom wrote:
>> In alot of studies ive seen soy is estrogenic..especially in males with
>> high adipose tissue…it can spark gyno <boobs>…so i dont rely on soy
>> as a protien source personally.
> Statins, too, btw, can cause breast development in men, too.
> Susan
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Susan wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If
>> you don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain,
>> or funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no
>> ‘inherent danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some
>> people due to allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to
>> do with food labeling.
>> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
> Straw man fallacy.
No, you made a claim that, and I quote: "The FDA has nothing to do with
individual hypothyroid patient’s treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy
for everyone, just for some folks with thyroid disorder."
That claim is nonsense, as I demonstrated above by example.
> You really think they’ll control tempeh and strawberries and chocolate
> and take them off the market because some folks have sensitivities to them?
Take them off the market? No. But they already exert considerable control for
all of them. You can’t make health claims for them without running afoul of
their pharmaceutical standards, and you have to label your food products for
purity and ingredients. It’s called the ‘Food and Drug Administration’, not
the ‘restrict the pills administration’.
The labeling problems with St. John’s Wort, and the purity problems, are a
perfect example of medicinal use of food components being affected by the FDA.
While not a lawyer, you apparently aren’t aware that I used to do medical
research. The FDA wields a lot of control over medical treatment and markets,
both directly and indirectly. So to assume that it can’t or won’t act in a
‘mere sensitivity’ issue is ill-founded, to say the least.
I see even better why Guy argues with you.
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> Susan wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
>> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
>> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for some
>> folks with thyroid disorder.
>> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey alternative
>> medicine crap.
>> Susan
> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you
> don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or
> funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent
> danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to
> allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food
> labeling.
> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
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> Susan wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
>> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
>> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for some
>> folks with thyroid disorder.
>> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey alternative
>> medicine crap.
>> Susan
> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you
> don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or
> funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent
> danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to
> allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food
> labeling.
> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
Huh? So you think the FDA will ban soy because it can affect people with a
thyroid problem?
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Julie Bove wrote:
> "Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nka…@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:O6ydnShvfoP67i_VnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com…
>> Susan wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>>>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>>>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
>>> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
>>> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for some
>>> folks with thyroid disorder.
>>> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey alternative
>>> medicine crap.
>>> Susan
>> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you
>> don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or
>> funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent
>> danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to
>> allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food
>> labeling.
>> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
> Huh? So you think the FDA will ban soy because it can affect people with a
> thyroid problem?
Now, *THAT* is a straw man fallacy. Soy != tempeh. And *selling* tempeh on the
basis of health claims would bring it straight into the the classic range of
the absurdities surrounding the sales of ginseng and St. John’s Wort, although
tempeh has notably greater actual food value and may manage to escape thosse,
even if hawked as a health supplement.
On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:09:55 -0400, Susan
<neverm…@nomail.com> wrote:
>x-no-archive: yes
>krom wrote:
>> In alot of studies ive seen soy is estrogenic..especially in males with high
>> adipose tissue…it can spark gyno <boobs>…so i dont rely on soy as a
>> protien source personally.
>Statins, too, btw, can cause breast development in men, too.
>Susan
Hmmm. I’m glad I dropped the lipitor, but I’m still going to
have an occasional splash of soy sauce in my stir-fry. I
hope that doesn’t mean I have to go shopping in the lingerie
shop.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
—
d&e, metformin 1500mg, ezetrol 10mg
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http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/alan_s/
http://loraltravel.blogspot.com (Two Indian Hotels: to Sleep, Perchance..)
The cheapest source of good protein that most Indonesian people can afford
is tempeh. Chicken, beef, sheep and goats, or even eggs are expensive that
only the "rich" can afford to buy. Tempeh, like rice is considered a staple
food in Indonesia. I heard that toddlers were also fed tempeh by parents who
are too poor to buy animal protein.
Good tasting tempeh, unfortunately, are not easy to find in Indonesia as
well as in the US. Even the "best" of tempeh has some strange aftertaste
that many dislike. For that reason you will find that some tempeh
manufacturer in the US make their tempeh mixed with carrots, for instance,
or celery or whatever to improve the taste of their tempeh.
"krom" <thekromremoverem…@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In indonesia portion sizes are greatly smaller then a american would eat
> for one and from all i have seen and read about thier diets soy products
> are use much like meat…as a small addition to veggies and starch..almost
> as a flavoring or texture enhancer.
> It isnt like they are eating two pounds of it a day.
> In america people tend to go overboard and the new soy converts will drink
> soy milk and eat soy sausages and eggs with tofu for breakfast…soy
> processed sandwhich meat on soy flour bread for luch and snack on soynuts
> as a snack etc etc
> If you are eating soy once or twice a week along with other healthy things
> you problably will be fine…i just personally enjoy meat as my protien
> source so i dont need soy products.
> KROM
> "Raja Singa" <peliwoelo…@nabiarab.com> wrote
>> Hmmmm……in Indonesia millions of people have and are still consuming
>> tempeh for decades, or perhaps centuries. In America and Canada people
>> are also consuming tempeh in increasingly large numbers.
>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is no
>> longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
"Julie Bove" <julieb…@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> "Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nka…@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Susan wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>>>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>>>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
>>> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
>>> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for some
>>> folks with thyroid disorder.
>>> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey alternative
>>> medicine crap.
>>> Susan
>> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you
>> don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or
>> funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent
>> danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to
>> allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food
>> labeling.
>> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
> Huh? So you think the FDA will ban soy because it can affect people with
> a thyroid problem?
Perhaps not ban. How about warnings on the labels? So far I have not seen
such warnings on tempeh labels, have you? Warnings that tempeh can
exarcebate thyroid problems..
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"Susan" <neverm…@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> x-no-archive: yes
> Raja Singa wrote:
>> Perhaps not ban. How about warnings on the labels? So far I have not seen
>> such warnings on tempeh labels, have you? Warnings that tempeh can
>> exarcebate thyroid problems..
> No, but it’s in books and scientific articles about thyroid disfunction:
> http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/soydangers.htm
It’s interesting to note that most citations I read in your postings mainly
talked about the bad stuff found in soy products. Do you have good things to
say about soy products like tofu and tempeh?
People who are in the business of writing will find anything to write about
so they can continue making profits from their newsletters and publications.
But does that help the public? I don’t think so.
But if you and others who are really concerned about the "dangers" of soy
and soy products, like tofu and tempeh will call the FDA toll free number
and report your concern to them, that would be very helpful to the public,
don’t you agree?
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> Lay language with citations.
> Or search PubMed.
> Susan
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>> "Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nka…@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Susan wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> Raja Singa wrote:
>>>>> I am sure the FDA will interfere with the sale of tempeh if it causes
>>>>> thyroid problems. Like I have said earlier, the soy in raw soybeans is
>>>>> no longer exactly the same as the soy in tempeh after fermentation.
>>>> The FDA has nothing to do with individual hypothyroid patient’s
>>>> treatment; there’s no inherent danger to soy for everyone, just for
>>>> some folks with thyroid disorder.
>>>> It’s a well documented scientific finding, not some new agey
>>>> alternative medicine crap.
>>>> Susan
>>> Umm. Susan? FDA policy most certainly affects medical treatment. If you
>>> don’t believe so, talk to anyone who wants heroin for cancer pain, or
>>> funding for St. John’s Wort for depression. And there’s no ‘inherent
>>> danger’ to eating peanuts, it’s merely lethal for some people due to
>>> allergies. So by your standard, the FDA has nothing to do with food
>>> labeling.
>>> I begin to see why Guy argues with you.
>> Huh? So you think the FDA will ban soy because it can affect people with
>> a thyroid problem?
> Perhaps not ban. How about warnings on the labels? So far I have not seen
> such warnings on tempeh labels, have you? Warnings that tempeh can
> exarcebate thyroid problems..
Why would they need to? People with thyroid problems should know this
already.