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  In article &lt;3ir7li$...@newsbf02.news.aol.com&gt;, wg...@aol.com (WGAII) says: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;My wife (a Type I diabetic since age 12) and I have recently been given &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the thumbs up from her physician to conceive. &#160;Her ha1c is in the 7 range &lt;br /&gt; &gt;and she keeps tight control of her BG by testing 5-6 times daily and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;regulating with ultra-lente and regular. &#160;We&#039;re thrilled to be able to go &lt;br /&gt; &gt;ahead, but still experience a bit of trepidation regarding this big step. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Can anyone out there provide some first-hand experience on diabetes and &lt;br /&gt; &gt;childbirth? &#160;Any response is greatly appreciated. &#160;In particular, we&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; &gt;interested in how successful (i.e. rigid) you may have been in keeping &lt;br /&gt; &gt;your BG under tight control. &#160;Even now (not being pregnant) it&#039;s a &lt;br /&gt; &gt;struggle for us, and on occasion, her BG can (for a short time) jump into &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the 200+ range. &#160;By the way, we&#039;re new to this internet thing, but think &lt;br /&gt; &gt;the misc.health.diabetes group is a wonderful source of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;information/support. &#160;Thanks in advance for any feedback. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Wgaii, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We have two children, ages 2 and 4. &#160;My wife has been Type I &lt;br /&gt; for 25 years, I am not. &#160;I highly recommend having children. It &lt;br /&gt; was the scarriest time in my life, and my wife&#039;s too, I think, &lt;br /&gt; but I have lived more life in the last 5 years than in the &lt;br /&gt; preceeding 30. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;We had what I think is the best care in the world at Brigham &amp; &lt;br /&gt; Women&#039;s Hospital in Boston. &#160;I recommend you try to take care &lt;br /&gt; of business at a good hospital rather than in some out-of-the-way &lt;br /&gt; place because the medical technical challenges are great. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our *team* of physician was outstanding. &#160;They were all over my &lt;br /&gt; wife like bees on a honeycomb -- it was great. &#160;I feel it&#039;s important &lt;br /&gt; to have physicians who specialize in high risk pregnancies because &lt;br /&gt; there&#039;s so much info and experience that a non-specialist will &lt;br /&gt; not have. &#160;I still can&#039;t believe how many person-hours of Dr&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; they spent on her, and how many different specialists she saw. &lt;br /&gt; Cost the insurance co. a bundle. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our first son is physically perfect. &#160;He was 6 weeks premature. &lt;br /&gt; Spent 4-5 days in the natal intensive care unit (NICU). &#160;Wife &lt;br /&gt; was toxemic. &#160;C-sect. &#160;Very common. &#160;The experience was so &lt;br /&gt; nerve-wracking, anguishing, and traumatic that a year later, &lt;br /&gt; we decided to do it again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Our second son was 4 weeks premature. &#160;We knew he had complete &lt;br /&gt; congenital heart block before birth. &#160;Several weeks in NICU. &lt;br /&gt; He&#039;ll have to wear a pace-maker when he gets older and avoid &lt;br /&gt; rough contact sports, but otherwise his life will be normal. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;They told us beforehand that it would be hard to control the BG. &lt;br /&gt; We thought, Hey, she knows how to control, she&#039;s good; wife&#039;s no &lt;br /&gt; tyro at this you know. &#160;We didn&#039;t fully appreciate what the Dr&#039;s &lt;br /&gt; were telling us. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In the first and third trimesters of both pregnancies, the BGs &lt;br /&gt; were basically out of control despite *very* rigorous efforts. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; I forget how many trips to the ER for hypo reactions we made, &lt;br /&gt; and I don&#039;t care to remember. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The reactions were apparently caused by nothing in particular. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; Her body just decided to secrete some hormones without telling &lt;br /&gt; us first, and wham. The second trimester is a honeymoon, a &lt;br /&gt; vacation. &#160;(God designed it that way so that the parents &lt;br /&gt; wouldn&#039;t actually be killed during gestation, so that they &lt;br /&gt; would survive for the third trimester&#039;s festivities.) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She eventually started testing BG every few hours. &#160;One time &lt;br /&gt; in the Joselyn they stuck her every hour with the big mother &lt;br /&gt; lancets -- the ones where they take a vial of blood. &#160;I thought &lt;br /&gt; that the phlebotomist was, in fact, a vampire in disguise. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Turns out that the vampire had misunderstood the Dr&#039;s instructions. &lt;br /&gt; (&quot;No, no you fool, I said ONE vial every THREE hours, not THREE &lt;br /&gt; vials every ONE hour.&quot;) &#160;This story isn&#039;t hyperbolic. &#160;The Dr &lt;br /&gt; couldn&#039;t apologise enough to my wife. &#160;I had never seen a &lt;br /&gt; humble Dr before, and I expect I never will again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;During the first and last trimesters, I would set my alarm &lt;br /&gt; clock every hour during the night to check if my wife was &lt;br /&gt; sweating. &#160;Also, she would test in the middle of the night &lt;br /&gt; regularly. &#160;We caught quite a few this way. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The final weeks were horrible for her, in the hospital most of &lt;br /&gt; the time. &#160;Life-threatening situation for her, Dr&#039;s had to be &lt;br /&gt; real careful and pay attention all the time. &#160;After the second &lt;br /&gt; son, the Dr. advised us not to do this again. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t mean to imply that the odds are against you. &#160;They&#039;re &lt;br /&gt; NOT. &#160;We were told most babies born to diabetic mothers &lt;br /&gt; at B&amp;W were perfect. &#160;The odds are really very good for a &lt;br /&gt; normal baby. &#160;Whatever you do, DO NOT despair because of this &lt;br /&gt; story. &#160;I do *not* mean to scare anyone. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I *do* mean to convey that it&#039;s a tricky business and you have to &lt;br /&gt; be diligent, seek expert care, and prepare for an arduous time. &lt;br /&gt; It&#039;s like flying a large aircraft (not really, but that&#039;s all I &lt;br /&gt; could think of) in that it is technically difficult, requires &lt;br /&gt; diligence, careful attention, and skilled technical support, &lt;br /&gt; but it can, and usually is done *very* successfully. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If we were where we were 5 years ago and know what we now know, &lt;br /&gt; I would still have two more kids. &#160;I can&#039;t really remember all &lt;br /&gt; the hard times anymore -- I just remember the good ones -- and &lt;br /&gt; anyway, it wouldn&#039;t matter how hard the hard times were, it &lt;br /&gt; would still be worth it. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dan &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;--------------------- &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Dan Wilkening &lt;br /&gt; dewilken...@tasc.com &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;3ir7li$&#8230;@newsbf02.news.aol.com&gt;, <a href="mailto:wg...@aol.com">wg&#8230;@aol.com</a> (WGAII) says: <br /> 
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<p>&gt;My wife (a Type I diabetic since age 12) and I have recently been given <br /> &gt;the thumbs up from her physician to conceive. &nbsp;Her ha1c is in the 7 range <br /> &gt;and she keeps tight control of her BG by testing 5-6 times daily and <br /> &gt;regulating with ultra-lente and regular. &nbsp;We&#8217;re thrilled to be able to go <br /> &gt;ahead, but still experience a bit of trepidation regarding this big step. <br /> &gt;Can anyone out there provide some first-hand experience on diabetes and <br /> &gt;childbirth? &nbsp;Any response is greatly appreciated. &nbsp;In particular, we&#8217;re <br /> &gt;interested in how successful (i.e. rigid) you may have been in keeping <br /> &gt;your BG under tight control. &nbsp;Even now (not being pregnant) it&#8217;s a <br /> &gt;struggle for us, and on occasion, her BG can (for a short time) jump into <br /> &gt;the 200+ range. &nbsp;By the way, we&#8217;re new to this internet thing, but think <br /> &gt;the misc.health.diabetes group is a wonderful source of <br /> &gt;information/support. &nbsp;Thanks in advance for any feedback. &nbsp; </p>
<p>Wgaii,  </p>
<p>We have two children, ages 2 and 4. &nbsp;My wife has been Type I <br /> for 25 years, I am not. &nbsp;I highly recommend having children. It <br /> was the scarriest time in my life, and my wife&#8217;s too, I think, <br /> but I have lived more life in the last 5 years than in the <br /> preceeding 30.  </p>
<p>We had what I think is the best care in the world at Brigham &amp; <br /> Women&#8217;s Hospital in Boston. &nbsp;I recommend you try to take care <br /> of business at a good hospital rather than in some out-of-the-way <br /> place because the medical technical challenges are great.  </p>
<p>Our *team* of physician was outstanding. &nbsp;They were all over my <br /> wife like bees on a honeycomb &#8212; it was great. &nbsp;I feel it&#8217;s important <br /> to have physicians who specialize in high risk pregnancies because <br /> there&#8217;s so much info and experience that a non-specialist will <br /> not have. &nbsp;I still can&#8217;t believe how many person-hours of Dr&#8217;s <br /> they spent on her, and how many different specialists she saw. <br /> Cost the insurance co. a bundle.  </p>
<p>Our first son is physically perfect. &nbsp;He was 6 weeks premature. <br /> Spent 4-5 days in the natal intensive care unit (NICU). &nbsp;Wife <br /> was toxemic. &nbsp;C-sect. &nbsp;Very common. &nbsp;The experience was so <br /> nerve-wracking, anguishing, and traumatic that a year later, <br /> we decided to do it again.  </p>
<p>Our second son was 4 weeks premature. &nbsp;We knew he had complete <br /> congenital heart block before birth. &nbsp;Several weeks in NICU. <br /> He&#8217;ll have to wear a pace-maker when he gets older and avoid <br /> rough contact sports, but otherwise his life will be normal. &nbsp;  </p>
<p>They told us beforehand that it would be hard to control the BG. <br /> We thought, Hey, she knows how to control, she&#8217;s good; wife&#8217;s no <br /> tyro at this you know. &nbsp;We didn&#8217;t fully appreciate what the Dr&#8217;s <br /> were telling us.  </p>
<p>In the first and third trimesters of both pregnancies, the BGs <br /> were basically out of control despite *very* rigorous efforts. &nbsp; <br /> I forget how many trips to the ER for hypo reactions we made, <br /> and I don&#8217;t care to remember.  </p>
<p>The reactions were apparently caused by nothing in particular. &nbsp; <br /> Her body just decided to secrete some hormones without telling <br /> us first, and wham. The second trimester is a honeymoon, a <br /> vacation. &nbsp;(God designed it that way so that the parents <br /> wouldn&#8217;t actually be killed during gestation, so that they <br /> would survive for the third trimester&#8217;s festivities.)  </p>
<p>She eventually started testing BG every few hours. &nbsp;One time <br /> in the Joselyn they stuck her every hour with the big mother <br /> lancets &#8212; the ones where they take a vial of blood. &nbsp;I thought <br /> that the phlebotomist was, in fact, a vampire in disguise.  </p>
<p>Turns out that the vampire had misunderstood the Dr&#8217;s instructions. <br /> (&quot;No, no you fool, I said ONE vial every THREE hours, not THREE <br /> vials every ONE hour.&quot;) &nbsp;This story isn&#8217;t hyperbolic. &nbsp;The Dr <br /> couldn&#8217;t apologise enough to my wife. &nbsp;I had never seen a <br /> humble Dr before, and I expect I never will again.  </p>
<p>During the first and last trimesters, I would set my alarm <br /> clock every hour during the night to check if my wife was <br /> sweating. &nbsp;Also, she would test in the middle of the night <br /> regularly. &nbsp;We caught quite a few this way.  </p>
<p>The final weeks were horrible for her, in the hospital most of <br /> the time. &nbsp;Life-threatening situation for her, Dr&#8217;s had to be <br /> real careful and pay attention all the time. &nbsp;After the second <br /> son, the Dr. advised us not to do this again.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to imply that the odds are against you. &nbsp;They&#8217;re <br /> NOT. &nbsp;We were told most babies born to diabetic mothers <br /> at B&amp;W were perfect. &nbsp;The odds are really very good for a <br /> normal baby. &nbsp;Whatever you do, DO NOT despair because of this <br /> story. &nbsp;I do *not* mean to scare anyone.  </p>
<p>I *do* mean to convey that it&#8217;s a tricky business and you have to <br /> be diligent, seek expert care, and prepare for an arduous time. <br /> It&#8217;s like flying a large aircraft (not really, but that&#8217;s all I <br /> could think of) in that it is technically difficult, requires <br /> diligence, careful attention, and skilled technical support, <br /> but it can, and usually is done *very* successfully.  </p>
<p>If we were where we were 5 years ago and know what we now know, <br /> I would still have two more kids. &nbsp;I can&#8217;t really remember all <br /> the hard times anymore &#8212; I just remember the good ones &#8212; and <br /> anyway, it wouldn&#8217;t matter how hard the hard times were, it <br /> would still be worth it.  </p>
<p>Good luck.  </p>
<p>Dan  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;  </p>
<p>Dan Wilkening <br /> <a href="mailto:dewilken...@tasc.com">dewilken&#8230;@tasc.com</a> </p>
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