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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;blue...@ampakzo.UUCP (Bluejay Adametz) wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; ... Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; rating? &#160;Thanks &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;If you&#039;re taking insulin, forget it. If you&#039;re controlling with diet &amp; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;exercise, yes. If you&#039;re taking oral meds, maybe. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;--- &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I wouldn&#039;t be so categorical and say &quot;forget it&quot;. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;After all, the FAA is actively considering letting IDDM&#039;s fly under &lt;br /&gt; specially monitored conditioned. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Please see AOPA on CompuServe for details. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shyam Jha &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PP ASEL IA &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:blue...@ampakzo.UUCP">blue&#8230;@ampakzo.UUCP</a> (Bluejay Adametz) wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; &#8230; Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot <br /> &gt;&gt; rating? &nbsp;Thanks  </p>
<p>&gt;If you&#8217;re taking insulin, forget it. If you&#8217;re controlling with diet &amp; <br /> &gt;exercise, yes. If you&#8217;re taking oral meds, maybe. <br /> &gt;&#8212; </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be so categorical and say &quot;forget it&quot;.  </p>
<p>After all, the FAA is actively considering letting IDDM&#8217;s fly under <br /> specially monitored conditioned.  </p>
<p>Please see AOPA on CompuServe for details.  </p>
<p>Shyam Jha  </p>
<p>PP ASEL IA </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; ... Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rating? &#160;Thanks &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;If you&#039;re taking insulin, forget it. If you&#039;re controlling with diet &amp; &lt;br /&gt; exercise, yes. If you&#039;re taking oral meds, maybe. &lt;br /&gt; --- &lt;br /&gt; Bluejay Adametz, CFII, A&amp;P &#160; &#160; &#160;feathr::blue...@ampakz.enet.dec.com &lt;br /&gt; AMP-Akzo Co. &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;blue...@ampakzo.UUCP &lt;br /&gt; Greenville, SC, USA &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; +1 864 675 7425 &lt;br /&gt; --- &lt;br /&gt; Cardinal Richelieu invented the table knife.. to foil those &lt;br /&gt; fellow diners who were using the pointed knives to pick their &lt;br /&gt; teeth as well as cut their food. &lt;br /&gt; --- &lt;br /&gt; The folks who pay me want me to tell you: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Confidential &amp; Proprietary &lt;br /&gt; (c)1996 AMP-Akzo Co. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote:  </p>
<p>&gt; &#8230; Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot <br /> &gt; rating? &nbsp;Thanks </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re taking insulin, forget it. If you&#8217;re controlling with diet &amp; <br /> exercise, yes. If you&#8217;re taking oral meds, maybe. <br /> &#8212; <br /> Bluejay Adametz, CFII, A&amp;P &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;feathr::blue&#8230;@ampakz.enet.dec.com <br /> AMP-Akzo Co. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;blue&#8230;@ampakzo.UUCP <br /> Greenville, SC, USA &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1 864 675 7425 <br /> &#8212; <br /> Cardinal Richelieu invented the table knife.. to foil those <br /> fellow diners who were using the pointed knives to pick their <br /> teeth as well as cut their food. <br /> &#8212; <br /> The folks who pay me want me to tell you:  </p>
<p>Confidential &amp; Proprietary <br /> (c)1996 AMP-Akzo Co. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Recently diagnosed with type II on oral meds. &#160;Can diabetics still scuba &lt;br /&gt; &gt; dive? &#160;Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rating? &#160;Thanks &lt;br /&gt; &gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Ken Cochrane &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m type I (which I think is generally treated as more severe by the folks &lt;br /&gt; making these regulations) and I was able to get SCUBA certified here in &lt;br /&gt; LA county (CA) without any problem about 7 years ago, although I think I &lt;br /&gt; had to write an explanation of my condition for someone&#039;s files. &#160;When &lt;br /&gt; you go, a handy sugar source is 2 or 3 peeled oranges, separated and in a &lt;br /&gt; netted bag. &#160;They&#039;re pretty tasty btwn breaths, though a little salty. &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Sincerely, &#160;Bryan &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 9 Jan 1996, Ken Cochrane wrote: <br /> 
<p>&gt; Recently diagnosed with type II on oral meds. &nbsp;Can diabetics still scuba <br /> &gt; dive? &nbsp;Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot <br /> &gt; rating? &nbsp;Thanks <br /> &gt; &#8212; <br /> &gt; Ken Cochrane </p>
<p>I&#8217;m type I (which I think is generally treated as more severe by the folks <br /> making these regulations) and I was able to get SCUBA certified here in <br /> LA county (CA) without any problem about 7 years ago, although I think I <br /> had to write an explanation of my condition for someone&#8217;s files. &nbsp;When <br /> you go, a handy sugar source is 2 or 3 peeled oranges, separated and in a <br /> netted bag. &nbsp;They&#8217;re pretty tasty btwn breaths, though a little salty. <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Sincerely, &nbsp;Bryan </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  You can scuba dive, but be sure your BGs are good before doing &lt;br /&gt; so and be sure and tell the dive master. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;As to pilot restrictions, that is a very sore point with me, as &lt;br /&gt; I have been fighting the FAA medical branch for almost 5 years. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;To qualify you must submit the following: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Fasting and 2 hour post parandial blood sugars, showing 120 or &lt;br /&gt; less on fasting, 160 or less PP and an A1c of 8 or less. &#160;These &lt;br /&gt; have to be done, on a monthly basis for at least 3 months. &#160;You &lt;br /&gt; must have a stress test and EKG, within normal limits and done &lt;br /&gt; to maximal stress levels. &#160;You must have a letter from your &lt;br /&gt; endocrinologist attesting to your medications and that they &lt;br /&gt; will not prohibit your safe operation of an aircraft. &#160;All of &lt;br /&gt; this then gets submitted to a medical examiner, who will call &lt;br /&gt; Oklahoma City while you are there and obtain authorization to &lt;br /&gt; issue the 3rd class medical. &#160;Approximately a month later you &lt;br /&gt; will receive a letter from the FAA, telling you the medical &lt;br /&gt; certicate is revoked, and enclosing a replacment for a period &lt;br /&gt; of 6 months. &#160;During that period, you must submit at least 3 &lt;br /&gt; additional blood tests, in accordance with the above numbers. &#160; &lt;br /&gt; They will then issue an extension. &#160;They can continue to &lt;br /&gt; restrict your certificate and continue to require testing and &lt;br /&gt; retesting and retesting for so long as they like. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you change your medication, or dosage, you must immediately &lt;br /&gt; notify the FAA and until you receive clearance cannot fly as &lt;br /&gt; pilot in command without a properly rated safety pilot aboard. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you begin taking insulin, kiss it goodbye. &#160;There is no &lt;br /&gt; means by which an IDDM can obtain a medical certificate in the &lt;br /&gt; United States. &#160;Additionally, you cannot obtain a class II or &lt;br /&gt; class I certificate with oral medications. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Any other questions? &#160;Oh, yeah, I finally gave up after 12 &lt;br /&gt; monthly blood tests when my endo changed my medications. &#160;I &lt;br /&gt; miss it more than anything I have ever done, but I just don&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; have the energy to continue the fight... &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can scuba dive, but be sure your BGs are good before doing <br /> so and be sure and tell the dive master. <br /> 
<p>As to pilot restrictions, that is a very sore point with me, as <br /> I have been fighting the FAA medical branch for almost 5 years.  </p>
<p>To qualify you must submit the following:  </p>
<p>Fasting and 2 hour post parandial blood sugars, showing 120 or <br /> less on fasting, 160 or less PP and an A1c of 8 or less. &nbsp;These <br /> have to be done, on a monthly basis for at least 3 months. &nbsp;You <br /> must have a stress test and EKG, within normal limits and done <br /> to maximal stress levels. &nbsp;You must have a letter from your <br /> endocrinologist attesting to your medications and that they <br /> will not prohibit your safe operation of an aircraft. &nbsp;All of <br /> this then gets submitted to a medical examiner, who will call <br /> Oklahoma City while you are there and obtain authorization to <br /> issue the 3rd class medical. &nbsp;Approximately a month later you <br /> will receive a letter from the FAA, telling you the medical <br /> certicate is revoked, and enclosing a replacment for a period <br /> of 6 months. &nbsp;During that period, you must submit at least 3 <br /> additional blood tests, in accordance with the above numbers. &nbsp; <br /> They will then issue an extension. &nbsp;They can continue to <br /> restrict your certificate and continue to require testing and <br /> retesting and retesting for so long as they like.  </p>
<p>If you change your medication, or dosage, you must immediately <br /> notify the FAA and until you receive clearance cannot fly as <br /> pilot in command without a properly rated safety pilot aboard.  </p>
<p>If you begin taking insulin, kiss it goodbye. &nbsp;There is no <br /> means by which an IDDM can obtain a medical certificate in the <br /> United States. &nbsp;Additionally, you cannot obtain a class II or <br /> class I certificate with oral medications.  </p>
<p>Any other questions? &nbsp;Oh, yeah, I finally gave up after 12 <br /> monthly blood tests when my endo changed my medications. &nbsp;I <br /> miss it more than anything I have ever done, but I just don&#8217;t <br /> have the energy to continue the fight&#8230; </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;Wes Grady &lt;wesgr...@mhv.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;If you begin taking insulin, kiss it goodbye. &#160;There is no &lt;br /&gt; &gt;means by which an IDDM can obtain a medical certificate in the &lt;br /&gt; &gt;United States. &#160;Additionally, you cannot obtain a class II or &lt;br /&gt; &gt;class I certificate with oral medications. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The FAA is currently reviewing the current ban on IDDM pilots, and is &lt;br /&gt; expected to apply the same standards as the one for NIDDM to issue a &lt;br /&gt; special certificate. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Pain in the butt, yes, but if you love flying, it is worth the fight. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Shyam Jha &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;PP ASEL IA &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wes Grady &lt;wesgr&#8230;@mhv.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;If you begin taking insulin, kiss it goodbye. &nbsp;There is no <br /> &gt;means by which an IDDM can obtain a medical certificate in the <br /> &gt;United States. &nbsp;Additionally, you cannot obtain a class II or <br /> &gt;class I certificate with oral medications. </p>
<p>The FAA is currently reviewing the current ban on IDDM pilots, and is <br /> expected to apply the same standards as the one for NIDDM to issue a <br /> special certificate.  </p>
<p>Pain in the butt, yes, but if you love flying, it is worth the fight.  </p>
<p>Shyam Jha  </p>
<p>PP ASEL IA </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;4cvjmn$...@tuna.hooked.net&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;kd...@tuna.hooked.net &quot;Ken Cochrane&quot; writes: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; Recently diagnosed with type II on oral meds. &#160;Can diabetics still scuba &lt;br /&gt; &gt; dive? &#160;Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot &lt;br /&gt; &gt; rating? &#160;Thanks &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Don&#039;t know about the pilots rating. Cannot see why not. In the UK, diabetes &lt;br /&gt; (I or II) does *NOT* automatically disqualify divers from B.S.A.C. At least, &lt;br /&gt; not the last time that I did a diver&#039;s medical, but that&#039;s over a year ago. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good luck! &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; Nick Hacking &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;4cvjmn$&#8230;@tuna.hooked.net&gt; <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;kd&#8230;@tuna.hooked.net &quot;Ken Cochrane&quot; writes: <br /> 
<p>&gt; Recently diagnosed with type II on oral meds. &nbsp;Can diabetics still scuba <br /> &gt; dive? &nbsp;Can diabetics get an aviators medical certificate for private pilot <br /> &gt; rating? &nbsp;Thanks </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know about the pilots rating. Cannot see why not. In the UK, diabetes <br /> (I or II) does *NOT* automatically disqualify divers from B.S.A.C. At least, <br /> not the last time that I did a diver&#8217;s medical, but that&#8217;s over a year ago.  </p>
<p>Good luck! <br /> &#8212; <br /> Nick Hacking </p>
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