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  &lt;p&gt;bl...@phoenix.phoenix.net (Blake Wilfong) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;My mother has been on Glucophage for four months. &#160;Her blood glucose &lt;br /&gt; &gt;levels have improved greatly--to normal nondiabetic levels--yet her &lt;br /&gt; &gt;peripheral neuropathy has accelerated markedly, causing loss of sensation &lt;br /&gt; &gt;in her feet, loss of balance, and burning. &#160;She already uses B vitamins. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Has anyone heard any reports that Glucophage has no effect on (or even &lt;br /&gt; &gt;worsens) peripheral neuropathy? &#160;Does anyone have any suggestions for her? &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Thanks in advance for any advice/information. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;-------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Blake Wilfong &#160;bl...@phoenix.net &#160;Houston, TX &#160;DHT DOOM Master &lt;br /&gt; &gt;-------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;increased neuropathic activity correlates with decreased growth-factor &lt;br /&gt; activity - (insulin-like-growth-factors I &amp; II; nerve-growth-factor) _ &lt;br /&gt; see (Ishii, 1995). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;decreased growth-factor activity correlates with reduced insulin activity. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;reduced insulin activity correlates with dieting. &#160;did your mother lose &lt;br /&gt; weight whilst on Glucophage? &#160;if so, the remedy is clear - lose weight &lt;br /&gt; slower. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;if not, we are left with the slow, inexorable march of neuropathy due to &lt;br /&gt; endoneural hypoxia. &#160;about which, things can be done. (endoneural hypoxia &lt;br /&gt; is cased by the oxygen-starvation and subsequent death of nerves due to &lt;br /&gt; a failure of the micro-circulatory system. &#160;due to a chronic shortage of &lt;br /&gt; prostacyclin, the oxygen-bearing blood corpuscles lose their deformability &lt;br /&gt; and become brittle - thus losing their ability to physically squeeze through &lt;br /&gt; small capillaries - hence the failure of the blood&#039;s oxygen-delivery system &lt;br /&gt; at the micro-circulatory level). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a &quot;cure&quot; of this specific woe would involve the repair of the prostacyclin &lt;br /&gt; production mechanism and that would probably involve genetic repair of the &lt;br /&gt; impaired fatty-acid metabolism that diabetics are heir to. but not today. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;however, a remedy is at hand in the form of the prescription drug Trental &lt;br /&gt; (pentoxiphylline) which, amongst other things, increases the amount of &lt;br /&gt; prostacyclin released where it is needed. By all (anecdotal) accounts, &lt;br /&gt; Trental seems to command a massively positive approval amongst users. &lt;br /&gt; hopefully your mother&#039;s, physician will also be aware of it&#039;s manifold &lt;br /&gt; benefits in diabetic neuropathy / vascular insufficiency / peripheral &lt;br /&gt; arterial disease. &#160;if not, a Medline search could settle that issue &lt;br /&gt; real quickly. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;the vitamin supplementation could be expanded to include vitamin e &lt;br /&gt; at about 400iu per day (see: Ceriello, 1991) and alpha-lipoic acid &lt;br /&gt; (aka thioctic acid) at 50mg - 100mg daily (see: Busse, 1992). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;a substance showing great promise is acetyl-L-carnitine.(see: Lowitt, 1995). &lt;br /&gt; most of the research involves the injectable form and how this translates &lt;br /&gt; to the oral forms (which is vitamin-store available) is unknown to me. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;i hope that some of the above is of use to you. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;References: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;E. Busse et al; Influence of alpha-lipoic acid on intracellular glutathione &lt;br /&gt; &#160;in vitro and in vivo; Drug Res. 42(1), Nr. 6(1992); p829-831. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;A. Ceriello et al; Vitamin E reduction of protein glycosylation in diabetics; &lt;br /&gt; &#160;Diabetes Care, 14(1),1991; 68-72. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;S. Lowitt et al; Acetyl-L-carnitine corrects the altered peripheral nerve &lt;br /&gt; &#160;function of experimental diabetes; Metabolism 44(5),1995: 677-680. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;_______________________________________________________________________________ &lt;br /&gt; Stan Angilley &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124; &quot;We waste our lives in half-truths, &lt;br /&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#124; &#160;nonsense and puddles of snake-oil&quot; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;br /&gt; email: angil...@netcom.com &#160;&#124; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ...after Tomb the Dwarf (The Pastel City) &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:bl...@phoenix.phoenix.net">bl&#8230;@phoenix.phoenix.net</a> (Blake Wilfong) writes: <br /> &gt;My mother has been on Glucophage for four months. &nbsp;Her blood glucose <br /> &gt;levels have improved greatly&#8211;to normal nondiabetic levels&#8211;yet her <br /> &gt;peripheral neuropathy has accelerated markedly, causing loss of sensation <br /> &gt;in her feet, loss of balance, and burning. &nbsp;She already uses B vitamins. <br /> &gt;Has anyone heard any reports that Glucophage has no effect on (or even <br /> &gt;worsens) peripheral neuropathy? &nbsp;Does anyone have any suggestions for her? <br /> &gt;Thanks in advance for any advice/information. <br /> &gt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; <br /> &gt;Blake Wilfong &nbsp;bl&#8230;@phoenix.net &nbsp;Houston, TX &nbsp;DHT DOOM Master <br /> &gt;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; </p>
<p>increased neuropathic activity correlates with decreased growth-factor <br /> activity &#8211; (insulin-like-growth-factors I &amp; II; nerve-growth-factor) _ <br /> see (Ishii, 1995).  </p>
<p>decreased growth-factor activity correlates with reduced insulin activity.  </p>
<p>reduced insulin activity correlates with dieting. &nbsp;did your mother lose <br /> weight whilst on Glucophage? &nbsp;if so, the remedy is clear &#8211; lose weight <br /> slower.  </p>
<p>if not, we are left with the slow, inexorable march of neuropathy due to <br /> endoneural hypoxia. &nbsp;about which, things can be done. (endoneural hypoxia <br /> is cased by the oxygen-starvation and subsequent death of nerves due to <br /> a failure of the micro-circulatory system. &nbsp;due to a chronic shortage of <br /> prostacyclin, the oxygen-bearing blood corpuscles lose their deformability <br /> and become brittle &#8211; thus losing their ability to physically squeeze through <br /> small capillaries &#8211; hence the failure of the blood&#8217;s oxygen-delivery system <br /> at the micro-circulatory level).  </p>
<p>a &quot;cure&quot; of this specific woe would involve the repair of the prostacyclin <br /> production mechanism and that would probably involve genetic repair of the <br /> impaired fatty-acid metabolism that diabetics are heir to. but not today.  </p>
<p>however, a remedy is at hand in the form of the prescription drug Trental <br /> (pentoxiphylline) which, amongst other things, increases the amount of <br /> prostacyclin released where it is needed. By all (anecdotal) accounts, <br /> Trental seems to command a massively positive approval amongst users. <br /> hopefully your mother&#8217;s, physician will also be aware of it&#8217;s manifold <br /> benefits in diabetic neuropathy / vascular insufficiency / peripheral <br /> arterial disease. &nbsp;if not, a Medline search could settle that issue <br /> real quickly.  </p>
<p>the vitamin supplementation could be expanded to include vitamin e <br /> at about 400iu per day (see: Ceriello, 1991) and alpha-lipoic acid <br /> (aka thioctic acid) at 50mg &#8211; 100mg daily (see: Busse, 1992).  </p>
<p>a substance showing great promise is acetyl-L-carnitine.(see: Lowitt, 1995). <br /> most of the research involves the injectable form and how this translates <br /> to the oral forms (which is vitamin-store available) is unknown to me.  </p>
<p>i hope that some of the above is of use to you.  </p>
<p>References:  </p>
<p>E. Busse et al; Influence of alpha-lipoic acid on intracellular glutathione <br /> &nbsp;in vitro and in vivo; Drug Res. 42(1), Nr. 6(1992); p829-831.  </p>
<p>A. Ceriello et al; Vitamin E reduction of protein glycosylation in diabetics; <br /> &nbsp;Diabetes Care, 14(1),1991; 68-72.  </p>
<p>S. Lowitt et al; Acetyl-L-carnitine corrects the altered peripheral nerve <br /> &nbsp;function of experimental diabetes; Metabolism 44(5),1995: 677-680.  </p>
<p>&#8211;  </p>
<p>_______________________________________________________________________________ <br /> Stan Angilley &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &quot;We waste our lives in half-truths, <br /> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; | &nbsp;nonsense and puddles of snake-oil&quot; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; <br /> email: <a href="mailto:angil...@netcom.com">angil&#8230;@netcom.com</a> &nbsp;| &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &#8230;after Tomb the Dwarf (The Pastel City) </p>
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  My mother has been on Glucophage for four months. &#160;Her blood glucose &lt;br /&gt; levels have improved greatly--to normal nondiabetic levels--yet her &lt;br /&gt; peripheral neuropathy has accelerated markedly, causing loss of sensation &lt;br /&gt; in her feet, loss of balance, and burning. &#160;She already uses B vitamins. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;Has anyone heard any reports that Glucophage has no effect on (or even &lt;br /&gt; worsens) peripheral neuropathy? &#160;Does anyone have any suggestions for her? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance for any advice/information. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt; Blake Wilfong &#160;bl...@phoenix.net &#160;Houston, TX &#160;DHT DOOM Master &lt;br /&gt; -------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother has been on Glucophage for four months. &nbsp;Her blood glucose <br /> levels have improved greatly&#8211;to normal nondiabetic levels&#8211;yet her <br /> peripheral neuropathy has accelerated markedly, causing loss of sensation <br /> in her feet, loss of balance, and burning. &nbsp;She already uses B vitamins. <br /> 
<p>Has anyone heard any reports that Glucophage has no effect on (or even <br /> worsens) peripheral neuropathy? &nbsp;Does anyone have any suggestions for her?  </p>
<p>Thanks in advance for any advice/information.  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; <br /> Blake Wilfong &nbsp;bl&#8230;@phoenix.net &nbsp;Houston, TX &nbsp;DHT DOOM Master <br /> &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; </p>
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