SG> My dad seems to think I drink an uncommonly large amount of sodas,
SG> etc. I think he may be right, but we’d like to hear how much other
SG> people w/ "dia-pee-pees" drink. My guess is that he’s refering to
SG> days like yesterday when I drank 1 gallon of (skim) milk, and
SG> prob anywhere from 12 to 15 sodas, and maybe 5 or 6 (8 oz?)
SG> glasses of water. I don’t drink that much everyday. Obviously my
SG> bg was a bit high (over 500). Yes, I do
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SG> to say I’ll drink anywhere from 1 to 3 gallons of water a day. The
SG> latter of course is when I get sick- my bg’s like to stay nice ‘n
SG> high (over 500 is all I know when at home, when-ever I’ve been in
SG> the hospital, it’s been measured anywhere from 600-800)and I still
SG> feel pretty normal, except that all I do is drink and pee. Anyway,
SG> I can feel a babble (so

SG> Sarah

You call a bG reading of 500 "a bit high"? Instead of worrying about
how much you’re drinking in a day, you should be looking for help on
getting those readings down to something more normal. If I were you,
I’d camp on my MD’s doorstep trying to get some help. When you
consider that a normal bG reading is anywhere from 80-120, you’re in
the "astronomically high" area.  Whew!!!

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 * RM 1.3 02829 * WARNING… drinking tap water may kill your thirst.

=That being said, it’s important to drink enough to satisfy thirst.  
=Uncontrolled diabetes can rapidly lead to dehydration, which is very
=dangerous.  It’s important to replace the water that you are losing.

Not to mention the electrolytes.
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bear that in mind and not try to "interpret"  my  posts  to  fit  your  own
preconceived notions if I’m posting in a serious thread.  Remember:  If you
throw a strawman into a heated debate, flames are likely to be the result.

> sui generis (mdur…@utxsvs.cc.utexas.edu) wrote:

> : when I drank 1 gallon of (skim) milk, and  prob anywhere from 12 to 15
> : sodas, and maybe 5 or 6 (8 oz?) glasses of water. I don’t drink that
> : much everyday. Obviously my bg was a bit high (over 500). Yes, I do

> Try not to drink so much milk when your blood glucose levels are so high
> (and they are really very high — too high).  Milk contains lactose which
> some Diabetics drink for when their bG’s are too low (under 70).

The only time we got a reading of "HIGH" on my then 2 year old’s One Touch
II (meaning his BG was over 650, I think) was the day his kind hearted
cousin kept getting him glasses of milk when he said he was thirsty.
On that particular day, 4-5 cups of 1% milk were all it took to put
his sugars sky-high.  Milk is not a free food.  It must be counted
into your food plan just like any other food.  Generally, 1 cup of milk
contains roughly the same number of carbohydrates as 1 starch
serving.  A gallon of milk = approx. 16 slices of bread = approx.
13 Reeses Peanut Butter cups in terms of the number of carbs!
Visiting a dietician helped us to understand meal planning a lot
better.  It might be worth a try for you.

Cathy
Mom of Aidan age 4 IDDM since 91

: when I drank 1 gallon of (skim) milk, and  prob anywhere from 12 to 15
: sodas, and maybe 5 or 6 (8 oz?) glasses of water. I don’t drink that
: much everyday. Obviously my bg was a bit high (over 500). Yes, I do

Try not to drink so much milk when your blood glucose levels are so high
(and they are really very high — too high).  Milk contains lactose which
some Diabetics drink for when their bG’s are too low (under 70).
It’s your very high blood glucose levels that are making you so thirsty
because your body wants to get rid of sugar that builds up in your
bladder and wants you to flush it out.  But just because you flush some of
it out doesn’t mean it any of it will be lowered in your blood.

Since you’re a Type I, call your doctor and ask him how much insulin you
should inject to bring your bG’s down a lot more.  By owering your bG’s,
you won’t be so thirsty, and your Diabetes will be in better control.

: of course is when I get sick- my bg’s like to stay nice ‘n high (over 500
: is all I know when at home, when-ever I’ve been in the hospital, it’s
: been measured anywhere from 600-800)and I still feel pretty normal,

Feeling normal doesn’t have anything to do with good blood glucose
control.  You might feel shakey or nervous when your bG’s are lower, ut
that’s because of the difference in bG levels or drop in your bG’s from
where they normally are (which seems to be very high).  Sorry, but I know
your Diabetes is new and all, but you’re basically out of control and
this is very dangerous to your circulatory system.  The best thing I can
say is to call your doctor and ask him/her what you can do to bring your
daily blood glucose levels down to a level that won’t harm your
circulatory system so quickly (like keeping it under 150 as much as you can).
You’ll feel weak and miserable now when your bG’s are that low, but if
you keep it as low as this all the time, you’ll feel "normal" again and
actually even better and delay or prevent complications.  And no, your
body doesn’t get used to these high sugars and survive for long.  Also,
to get back to your original question, you won’t be so thirsty.

It’s your blood glucose levels that are the problem here — not how much
you drink.  Please call your doctor and bring them down.

: Please let us know how this compares with what y’all drink.

When I was out of control, I drank a 2 liter bottle of Diet Pepsi/day.
Now I drink about 2 12oz. cans/day at most.  I hardly ever feel thirsty.

   -Joe

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: My dad seems to think I drink an uncommonly large amount of sodas, etc.
: I think he may be right, but we’d like to hear how much other people
: w/ "dia-pee-pees" drink. My guess is that he’s refering to days like yesterday
: when I drank 1 gallon of (skim) milk, and  prob anywhere from 12 to 15
: sodas, and maybe 5 or 6 (8 oz?) glasses of water. I don’t drink that
: much everyday. Obviously my bg was a bit high (over 500). Yes, I do
: try to drink water more than sodas, but you know some days I just get
Sarah,
If you are still feeling normal, there should still be time to head off some
pretty SERIOUS complications. BG’s that high are a recipe for disaster.
But you do need to take this very seriously immediately. If the sodas are
diet sodas, they can still be causing problems, but are not necessarily
a DIRECT cause of your high BG’s. That’s an ungodly amount of milk (lactose,
or milk sugar) for a diabetic to ingest. I had to cut down to 4 oz a day
at breakfast in order to eliminate the problems contributed by this factor.
If the sodas aren’t of the diet variety, those combined with the milk would
probably account for most, if not all, of your bg elevation. Even if they
are diet, you may find that you have a reaction to the aspartame they use,
which can cause problems. You are that thirsty because of the high bg’s.
With bg’s that high, you’d be making lots of trips to the bathroom even
without ingesting much fluid. PLEASE get those bg’s down today. As a start,
I would suggest that you eliminate the milk and sodas completely. It’ll take
a few days, but the thirst will calm down once the bg’s do. A gallon of
water a day is not necessarily excessive. Three is pretty impressive.
Try these changes, along with any others your doctor may suggest, and let
us know how you’re doing. (Once or twice a day, if you can, and feel
like it). Hope you’ll start now. The minute you read this. We don’t
want to lose you.

Look forward to hearing about your progress.

Jim M
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Jim MacKelvey

jimb…@netcom.com

: My dad seems to think I drink an uncommonly large amount of sodas, etc.
: I think he may be right, but we’d like to hear how much other people
: w/ "dia-pee-pees" drink. My guess is that he’s refering to days like yesterday
: when I drank 1 gallon of (skim) milk, and  prob anywhere from 12 to 15
: sodas, and maybe 5 or 6 (8 oz?) glasses of water. I don’t drink that
: much everyday. Obviously my bg was a bit high (over 500). Yes, I do
: try to drink water more than sodas, but you know some days I just get
: sick of water. When I stop drinking sodas (I go in waves), it’s safe
: to say I’ll drink anywhere from 1 to 3 gallons of water a day. The latter
: of course is when I get sick- my bg’s like to stay nice ‘n high (over 500
: is all I know when at home, when-ever I’ve been in the hospital, it’s
: been measured anywhere from 600-800)and I still feel pretty normal,
: except that all I do is drink and pee. Anyway, I can feel a babble (so
: to speak – or type, I guess) episode coming on, so I’ll stop b4 I really
: get going.
: Please let us know how this compares with what y’all drink.

500 isn’t just "a bit high," it’s very high.

Needing to drink so much is a red flag.  You need to get your diabetes
under better control.  And I hope that those sodas you are drinking are
diet sodas.  Don’t drink regular sodas at all.  And if you are very
thirsty, milk is not such a good bet, as it contains quite a bit of
lactose (milk sugar).  Also, try to avoid the caffeine.

If your diabetes is under good control, you shouldn’t be any thirstier
than the average non-diabetic person.

That being said, it’s important to drink enough to satisfy thirst.  
Uncontrolled diabetes can rapidly lead to dehydration, which is very
dangerous.  It’s important to replace the water that you are losing.  But
try to keep as much of it as water as possible.

And see your doctor ASAP to get those blood sugars down!