Hello. I’m new to this newsgrp and I hope this is serious enough to
post. I’m type II, have somewhat high BG readings currently (150-168) in
the AM, pre-prandial, and take 5mg Glucotrol a day (7.5 mg when I read
higher than 165).. I add 2.5 in the evening at dinnertime when my AM
reads were high.
I usually take readings about 2-3 times a week.
Woke up feeling rather "sugary" this morning, dry mouth and needing to
pass water. Had one slice of pizza last night. Night before, I had 2-3
ozs of wine. Also did not feel great yesterday morning.
Any reactions out there about pizza, or wine, or the 150+ readings?
Thanks.
fmwh…@email.unc.edu
ps I am male, 6’1", 170 lbs, Asian-American, 59 yrs old
Some diabetics (both kinds) find that the combination of carbohydrate with
fat in pizza makes their blood glucose levels go skyward.
Alcahol is tricksy! In general, it starts by depressing the bg, and
but then the bgs catch up (personally, I find one unit of alcahol
acts as if I’d eaten 10 or 20 gms around an hour later than I actually
did).
Pause here while I do some maths …
2-3 oz wine is a small glass? That’s about a unit… so
shouldn’t have had a dramatic effect. It might be worth the
while/pain to experiment with a more normal meal than pizza,
the next time you have one with a drink: test bgs each hour for three
or four hours. Try it on alcahol-free days, and at various
amounts of alcahol. Rather a lot of testing, but it
is best to know the effects, I think.
The same testing can show you what happens with pizza. Because
you are just looking for the effect after a couple of hours,
it isn’t as much testing …
–
Patricia Reynolds
a type 1, with a taste for more expensive alcohol …
p…@caerlas.demon.co.uk
Pizza is one of the worst, if not THE worst thing a diabetic can eat!
Combination of cheese (pure fat) and starch can really drive your BG UP!
When I eat one or two pieces, I can really feel it too the next morning.
Many stores now sell fat-free pizzas,and that helps a lot! Also, I make
my own at home with very little cheese, or no cheese at all. I order it
that way too! It still tastes good but you won’t have the spikes in BG.
–Kim, male Type II pizza lover.
There was an article in one of the diabetes magazines several years
ago about pizza. It suggested increasing the long term insulin
because of the delayed high blood sugars–because of the fat, I would
imagine. Anyway, my daughter takes a unit or two extra of ultralente
whenever she is having pizza; it works pretty well for her. You might
give it a try!
Judy
>I usually take readings about 2-3 times a week.
>Woke up feeling rather "sugary" this morning, dry mouth and needing to
>pass water. Had one slice of pizza last night. Night before, I had 2-3
>ozs of wine. Also did not feel great yesterday morning.
>Any reactions out there about pizza, or wine, or the 150+ readings?
This is all IMHO so here goes. If I were taking meds I would be testing at
least twice a day. Before I went to an endo I was not testing and didn’t
know where the bgs were at so I went hypo every day.
Are you exercising? This could help the high bgs. Keeping them as high as
you do avoids hypos but I would be a little afraid of the long term
complications. To me 125 is high. I am controlling my bgs with diet and
exercise plus keeping my weight down.
In my experience when I eat pizza (or any food with a lot of fat) my bgs
will be high for 18 – 36 hours. I eat it but try to keep my diet low in
fat the rest of the time. The problem with a high fat diet is that
**some** Type IIs have this elevated blood sugar from the fat more that
from extra sugar.
As another poster says–the wine is weird. Alcoholic beverages do strange
things to the bgs. Some may drop them and keep them down, some will drop
them and then raise them again. It will vary with the wine, the alcohol
content and time. Beer is even more weird.
–Ray B.
Net-Tamer V 0.99S – Registered
In a previous article, Ray_bowler () says:
Ray:
I have to post here because your e-mail address is not listed in a valid
fashion. If you see this, please e-mail with a valid return address. I
want to ask you about Net-Tamer, not diabetes.
>Are you exercising? This could help the high bgs. Keeping them as high as
>you do avoids hypos but I would be a little afraid of the long term
>complications. To me 125 is high. I am controlling my bgs with diet and
>exercise plus keeping my weight down.
>–Ray B.
> Net-Tamer V 0.99S – Registered
–
David Cohler, South Pasadena, CA
In a previous article, fmwh…@email.unc.edu (Francis Whang) says:
>Hello. I’m new to this newsgrp and I hope this is serious enough to
>post. I’m type II, have somewhat high BG readings currently (150-168) in
>the AM, pre-prandial, and take 5mg Glucotrol a day (7.5 mg when I read
>higher than 165).. I add 2.5 in the evening at dinnertime when my AM
>reads were high.
>I usually take readings about 2-3 times a week.
>Woke up feeling rather "sugary" this morning, dry mouth and needing to
>pass water. Had one slice of pizza last night. Night before, I had 2-3
>ozs of wine. Also did not feel great yesterday morning.
>Any reactions out there about pizza, or wine, or the 150+ readings?
I’d bet my money on the pizza. You couldn’t have picked a WORSE "snack"
for a diabetic if you’d tried — except perhaps for some triple chocolate
fudge cake. Pizza is EXTREMELY high in carbs and fats. To eat it before
going to sleep is an open invitation to hyperglycemia.
–
David Cohler, South Pasadena, CA
> I’d bet my money on the pizza. You couldn’t have picked a WORSE
>"snack" for a diabetic if you’d tried — except perhaps for some triple
>chocolate fudge cake. Pizza is EXTREMELY high in carbs and fats. To
>eat it before going to sleep is an open invitation to hyperglycemia.
Amen! I find that anything like that–lots of fat–runs up my blood
glucose and keeps it up overnight.
—
Jim-
James H. Stamper
Post Office Box 666
Woodstock, VA 22664 (540)459-2720
In article <3128D996.7…@pop.shentel.net>, jstam…@pop.shentel.net says…
>> I’d bet my money on the pizza. You couldn’t have picked a WORSE
>>"snack" for a diabetic if you’d tried — except perhaps for some triple
>>chocolate fudge cake. Pizza is EXTREMELY high in carbs and fats. To
>>eat it before going to sleep is an open invitation to hyperglycemia.
>Amen! I find that anything like that–lots of fat–runs up my blood
>glucose and keeps it up overnight.
I Know. But I REALLY LIKE PIZZA! About 3 times a year!
George
George.Eberha…@StarPower.Com (George Eberhardt) writes:
>In article <3128D996.7…@pop.shentel.net>, jstam…@pop.shentel.net says…
>>> I’d bet my money on the pizza. You couldn’t have picked a WORSE
>>>"snack" for a diabetic if you’d tried — except perhaps for some triple
>>>chocolate fudge cake. Pizza is EXTREMELY high in carbs and fats. To
>>>eat it before going to sleep is an open invitation to hyperglycemia.
>>Amen! I find that anything like that–lots of fat–runs up my blood
>>glucose and keeps it up overnight.
>I Know. But I REALLY LIKE PIZZA! About 3 times a year!
If you’re a Type 1, just up your insulin dose. For me, 2 extra units of
regular before dining (increasing from 7 to 9) and 2 extra units of NPH
before bed keep me under good control. YMMV.
Kelly Miller
who thinks that deep dish pizza is yummy for his tummy (egads, I must be
tired to have written that…)
Yeah, thanks to all about pizzas. I’ve given up the store-bought and
Domino’s etc. Also for you who have responded, I share the ff: Several
responses have led me to check the sugar content on the label of stuff
like tomato sauces, pasta sauces, salsa,e tc. 2-3 gms per serv seems
like the minimum since even plain tomatoes, crushed, pureed or whatever
seem to have a couple of gms of sugar/serv.
AND I have switched to baked tortilla chips, avoiding the fried ones.
Seems to help.
thanks again, all.
"fritz" whang