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OT Desperation

Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
care and medical research.

In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.  

I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

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  1. admin says:

    <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message

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    > Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    > We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    > All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    > me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    > The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    > care and medical research.

    > In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    > I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    > stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    > We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    > I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    > I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    I’ve been listening to the CEO of AIG trying to justify his greed all
    morning. It’s on C-Span right now. Yesterday was the CEO of Lehman Brothers.
    All one needs to do is tune in and listen for a few minutes, and you’ll know
    what one of the biggest problem is. Massive greed across many of our
    regulatory agencies, and certainly across both parties. Sad really.

    Cheri

  2. admin says:

    On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:36:02 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom>
    wrote:

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    >> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >> care and medical research.

    >> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    >I’ve been listening to the CEO of AIG trying to justify his greed all
    >morning. It’s on C-Span right now. Yesterday was the CEO of Lehman Brothers.
    >All one needs to do is tune in and listen for a few minutes, and you’ll know
    >what one of the biggest problem is. Massive greed across many of our
    >regulatory agencies, and certainly across both parties. Sad really.

    >Cheri

    Watching the same.  All of this negates
    the non controlled society concept.

    Too bad we have to learn by the painful
    route.

    By evolution we are greedy to survive.

    Any civilized concept is to contain these traits.

    The only real way to do this is to restrict the freedom
    of those that do not adhere with reasonable rules.

    We have a turnover of all people in about 50 years.

    Then the lesson must be re taught.

    We have had several events but all failed to  
    get the lesson through to the masses.

    It looks like Mother Nature is getting the
    out the 2×4 now.

    As before, the older and weak will never recover.

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    > Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    > We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    > All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    > me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    > The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    > care and medical research.

    > In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    > I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    > stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    > We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    > I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    > I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    I’d like to have None Of The Above listed as one of the choices
    on the ballot.

    Since it isn’t, a few people here may want to watch a video that
    is at least somewhat relevant to which candidate seems better
    for the people in this newsgroup:

    <http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10034400&…>

  4. admin says:

    <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message

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    > Watching the same.  All of this negates
    > the non controlled society concept.

    > Too bad we have to learn by the painful
    > route.

    > By evolution we are greedy to survive.

    > Any civilized concept is to contain these traits.

    > The only real way to do this is to restrict the freedom
    > of those that do not adhere with reasonable rules.

    > We have a turnover of all people in about 50 years.

    > Then the lesson must be re taught.

    > We have had several events but all failed to
    > get the lesson through to the masses.

    > It looks like Mother Nature is getting the
    > out the 2×4 now.

    > As before, the older and weak will never recover.

    It’s very disheartening for those of us who live within our means, work
    hard, pay our taxes, maybe live long enough to retire, and then have to
    spend our last years without some of the basics due to retirements being
    wiped out, the cost of drugs etc., as these assholes like Sullivan, Fuld,
    etc., making millions of dollars a year, plus hundreds of millions in
    bonuses, go off on a recent retreat while the taxpayers are being shafted,
    and they’re just a couple of examples. Sadly, the people that are supposed
    to be doing the regulation of this human greed, are locked into the greed
    themselves, so I don’t know where the hope for change is coming from. :-(

    Cheri

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    <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message

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    > On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:36:02 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom>
    > wrote:

    >><g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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    >>> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >>> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >>> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >>> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >>> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >>> care and medical research.

    >>> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >>> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >>> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >>> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >>> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >>> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    >>I’ve been listening to the CEO of AIG trying to justify his greed all
    >>morning. It’s on C-Span right now. Yesterday was the CEO of Lehman
    >>Brothers.
    >>All one needs to do is tune in and listen for a few minutes, and you’ll
    >>know
    >>what one of the biggest problem is. Massive greed across many of our
    >>regulatory agencies, and certainly across both parties. Sad really.

    >>Cheri
    > Watching the same.  All of this negates
    > the non controlled society concept.

    > Too bad we have to learn by the painful
    > route.

    > By evolution we are greedy to survive.

    > Any civilized concept is to contain these traits.

    > The only real way to do this is to restrict the freedom
    > of those that do not adhere with reasonable rules.

    > We have a turnover of all people in about 50 years.

    > Then the lesson must be re taught.

    > We have had several events but all failed to
    > get the lesson through to the masses.

    > It looks like Mother Nature is getting the
    > out the 2×4 now.

    > As before, the older and weak will never recover.

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    I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years of
    living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    Henry Mydlarz

  6. admin says:

    "Robert Miles" <robertmi…@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message

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    > <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    > news:8h4ne4t1ja56s4csohukg2goq2k8bsii6i@4ax.com…

    >> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >> care and medical research.

    >> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    > I’d like to have None Of The Above listed as one of the choices
    > on the ballot.

    > Since it isn’t, a few people here may want to watch a video that
    > is at least somewhat relevant to which candidate seems better
    > for the people in this newsgroup:

    > <http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10034400&…>

    "Seems" is the operative word here. Here in Australia at least, the
    challenger promises everything to everyone. Once his party is in power, he
    breaks up the promises into two groups – those that will have to wait five
    years or more to implement, and those that cannot be implemented at all,
    because of this "unexpected economic change". At least here we are
    completely used to the fact that few if any promises will be honoured.

    Henry Mydlarz.

  7. admin says:

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:52:00 +1100, "hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au>
    wrote:

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    ><g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
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    >> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:36:02 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom>
    >> wrote:

    >>><g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    >>>news:8h4ne4t1ja56s4csohukg2goq2k8bsii6i@4ax.com…

    >>>> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >>>> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >>>> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >>>> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >>>> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >>>> care and medical research.

    >>>> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >>>> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >>>> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >>>> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >>>> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >>>> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    >>>I’ve been listening to the CEO of AIG trying to justify his greed all
    >>>morning. It’s on C-Span right now. Yesterday was the CEO of Lehman
    >>>Brothers.
    >>>All one needs to do is tune in and listen for a few minutes, and you’ll
    >>>know
    >>>what one of the biggest problem is. Massive greed across many of our
    >>>regulatory agencies, and certainly across both parties. Sad really.

    >>>Cheri
    >> Watching the same.  All of this negates
    >> the non controlled society concept.

    >> Too bad we have to learn by the painful
    >> route.

    >> By evolution we are greedy to survive.

    >> Any civilized concept is to contain these traits.

    >> The only real way to do this is to restrict the freedom
    >> of those that do not adhere with reasonable rules.

    >> We have a turnover of all people in about 50 years.

    >> Then the lesson must be re taught.

    >> We have had several events but all failed to
    >> get the lesson through to the masses.

    >> It looks like Mother Nature is getting the
    >> out the 2×4 now.

    >> As before, the older and weak will never recover.

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    >I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    >times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    >still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    >would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years of
    >living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    >Henry Mydlarz

    Elitism is so common n the US.  Really a case of the haves and the
    have nots. e element s the  hoardf excess wealth.

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    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:28:21 -0500, g…@consolidated.net wrote:
    >On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 16:52:00 +1100, "hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au>
    >wrote:

    >><g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    >>news:ql9ne4tnb4s40krc64rgcb5aonmjocjq45@4ax.com…
    >>> On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 10:36:02 -0700, "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom>
    >>> wrote:

    >>>><g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    >>>>news:8h4ne4t1ja56s4csohukg2goq2k8bsii6i@4ax.com…

    >>>>> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >>>>> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >>>>> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >>>>> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >>>>> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >>>>> care and medical research.

    >>>>> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >>>>> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >>>>> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >>>>> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >>>>> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >>>>> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    >>>>I’ve been listening to the CEO of AIG trying to justify his greed all
    >>>>morning. It’s on C-Span right now. Yesterday was the CEO of Lehman
    >>>>Brothers.
    >>>>All one needs to do is tune in and listen for a few minutes, and you’ll
    >>>>know
    >>>>what one of the biggest problem is. Massive greed across many of our
    >>>>regulatory agencies, and certainly across both parties. Sad really.

    >>>>Cheri
    >>> Watching the same.  All of this negates
    >>> the non controlled society concept.

    >>> Too bad we have to learn by the painful
    >>> route.

    >>> By evolution we are greedy to survive.

    >>> Any civilized concept is to contain these traits.

    >>> The only real way to do this is to restrict the freedom
    >>> of those that do not adhere with reasonable rules.

    >>> We have a turnover of all people in about 50 years.

    >>> Then the lesson must be re taught.

    >>> We have had several events but all failed to
    >>> get the lesson through to the masses.

    >>> It looks like Mother Nature is getting the
    >>> out the 2×4 now.

    >>> As before, the older and weak will never recover.

    >>> —-== Posted via Pronews.Com – Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet
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    >>I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    >>times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    >>still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    >>would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years of
    >>living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    >>Henry Mydlarz

    >Elitism is so common n the US.  Really a case of the haves and the
    >have nots. e element s the  hoardf excess wealth.

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    I must have sent this by mistake.  How, I do not know.  I saw another
    posting that I definitely did not send.    The ghosts are around
    again.

    Elitism is so common in the US.  We have components that are
    the measure of out  importance.

    Economics teach us the financial system is a fly wheel
    where adding  a buck results in twenty buck in the money flow.

    This system is unstable and the cycles of excess ups and downs
    are expected.

    Simply said the era of good times is limited in a free uncontrolled
    system.

    Many of us were amazed how long they managed to extend this cycle

    It will produce a shrinkage until the excesses are shaken out.

    The medical system is not immune from the correction.  How that
    will play out is unknown.

    Read the details of the 1930′s.  People should remember the results on
    our political systems and the resulting disasters.    

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    "hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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    > I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    > times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    > still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    > would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years
    > of living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    > Henry Mydlarz

    Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than the
    rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize that
    they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored at the
    Cryonics Institute. :-)

    Cheri
    Cheri

  10. admin says:

    On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 09:48:36 -0700, in <gcio9u02…@news5.newsguy.com> "Cheri"

    <gserviceatlodinetdotcom> wrote:
    >"hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    >news:48ec4a80$0$18429$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au…

    >> I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    >> times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    >> still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    >> would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years
    >> of living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    >Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than the
    >rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize that
    >they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored at the
    >Cryonics Institute. :-)

    Enough money early enough, unless accompanied with huge stress, can buy more
    years of health. Better diet, better health care, better preventive
    maintenance, …


    DonnaB shallotpeel : ^> USA <*>
    06-07-06 Diagnosis T2 HbA1c 8.1, D&E & Metformin 500mg
    Current ………………. HbA1c 5.8  Byetta 5×2 begun 08-01-08

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY

  11. admin says:

    On 10/7/08 11:06 PM, in article
    48ec4dfa$0$28215$afc38…@news.optusnet.com.au, "hemyd"

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    <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    > "Robert Miles" <robertmi…@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote in message
    > news:w_OGk.38913$IB6.5308@bignews8.bellsouth.net…

    >> <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    >> news:8h4ne4t1ja56s4csohukg2goq2k8bsii6i@4ax.com…

    >>> Since the bush crew has allowed the economy go down the toilet.
    >>> We see more and more attacks that are irrational and lies.

    >>> All I know is that what I worked and saved is being taken away from
    >>> me.  Any alternative now gets my attention.

    >>> The only issues that should appear here is the ones on medical
    >>> care and medical research.

    >>> In my opinion these issues are not being dealt with properly.

    >>> I learned before I left my teen years that Selecting a political
    >>> stand  without  good reason is plain stupid.

    >>> We do not know how any candidate will work out.  All do know
    >>> I will not gain a damn thing out of the political mess.

    >>> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    >> I’d like to have None Of The Above listed as one of the choices
    >> on the ballot.

    >> Since it isn’t, a few people here may want to watch a video that
    >> is at least somewhat relevant to which candidate seems better
    >> for the people in this newsgroup:

    >> <http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10034400&
    >> 723&src=news>

    > "Seems" is the operative word here. Here in Australia at least, the
    > challenger promises everything to everyone. Once his party is in power, he
    > breaks up the promises into two groups – those that will have to wait five
    > years or more to implement, and those that cannot be implemented at all,
    > because of this "unexpected economic change". At least here we are
    > completely used to the fact that few if any promises will be honoured.

    > Henry Mydlarz.

    Oh, Henry, you’ve gotten too cynical! Unfortunately, your cynicism is firmly
    grounded in fact. I think it’s the same for all of us. I am sick and tired
    of the rubbish that is being spouted at us. All well, election day is the
    14th and everything will return to normal.


    Martha T2 Canada
    1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

  12. admin says:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:56:43 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel

    <shallotp…@comcast.net> wrote:
    >>Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than the
    >>rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize that
    >>they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored at the
    >>Cryonics Institute. :-)

    >Enough money early enough, unless accompanied with huge stress, can buy more
    >years of health. Better diet, better health care, better preventive
    >maintenance, …

    Or you can purchase someone else’s health:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/helicopter-pilot-

    "Friday, 24 November 2000

    Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    donated an organ.

    Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    donated an organ."

    When Packer died five years later, the donor may have asked
    for it back, unsuccessfully.
    http://www.naughtypig.com.au/index.php?title=packer_helicopter_pilot_

    He claimed he didn’t do it for money, but appeared to be
    fairly well-heeled after the event, until:

    "03-30-2007
    http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-137201761.html
    NSW: Man who swindled Kerry Packer kidney donor jailed 5
    years

    SYDNEY, March 30 AAP – A former banker who defrauded six
    friends, including the late Kerry Packer’s kidney donor, of
    nearly $2.5 million has been jailed for a maximum of five
    years.

    Gregory Hare, 41, was sentenced today to a minimum three
    years and nine months after pleading guilty to 14 counts of
    obtaining financial benefit by deception."

    Sad how things work out sometimes for some.

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

    d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
    dLife http://tinyurl.com/54get5 (Diabetes Diet Wars)

  13. admin says:

    On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:51:13 -0700, MI

    <quilchenap…@shaw.ca> wrote:
    > All well, election day is the
    >14th and everything will return to normal.

    Gee, I hope not, if "normal" is the status quo; my
    preference would be that everything is imporved:-)

    Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.

    d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.
    http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
    dLife http://tinyurl.com/54get5 (Diabetes Diet Wars)

  14. admin says:

    On 10/8/08 5:31 PM, in article 65kqe4lqfoj5gr2q19ugqehlp74a08f…@4ax.com,

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    "Alan S" <loralgtweightandca…@gmail.com> wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:51:13 -0700, MI
    > <quilchenap…@shaw.ca> wrote:

    >> All well, election day is the
    >> 14th and everything will return to normal.

    > Gee, I hope not, if "normal" is the status quo; my
    > preference would be that everything is imporved:-)

    > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    > —
    > d&e, metformin 2000 mg
    > Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.
    > http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Be Smart, Be Skeptical)
    > dLife http://tinyurl.com/54get5 (Diabetes Diet Wars)

    Not too likely this time. Looks like another minority government. So back to
    bickering and not much done in my opinion.

    Martha T2 Canada
    1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia

  15. admin says:

    "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom> wrote in message

    news:gcio9u02a16@news5.newsguy.com…

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    > "hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:48ec4a80$0$18429$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au…

    >> I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    >> times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    >> still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    >> would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years
    >> of living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    >> Henry Mydlarz

    > Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than the
    > rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize
    > that they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored
    > at the Cryonics Institute. :-)

    > Cheri
    > Cheri

    It may be worthwhile to suggest that they contribute to medical research
    intended to help people live longer.  At least something useful should
    come out of such research.

  16. admin says:

    "Alan S" <loralgtweightandca…@gmail.com> wrote in message

    news:upjqe45283egv63in5il9eir47hp8u2tis@4ax.com…

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    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:56:43 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
    > <shallotp…@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>>Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than
    >>>the
    >>>rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize
    >>>that
    >>>they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored at
    >>>the
    >>>Cryonics Institute. :-)

    >>Enough money early enough, unless accompanied with huge stress, can buy
    >>more
    >>years of health. Better diet, better health care, better preventive
    >>maintenance, …

    > Or you can purchase someone else’s health:
    > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/helicopter-pilot-

    > "Friday, 24 November 2000

    > Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    > richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    > Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    > donated an organ.

    > Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    > richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    > Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    > donated an organ."

    > When Packer died five years later, the donor may have asked
    > for it back, unsuccessfully.
    > http://www.naughtypig.com.au/index.php?title=packer_helicopter_pilot_

    > He claimed he didn’t do it for money, but appeared to be
    > fairly well-heeled after the event, until:

    > "03-30-2007
    > http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-137201761.html
    > NSW: Man who swindled Kerry Packer kidney donor jailed 5
    > years

    > SYDNEY, March 30 AAP – A former banker who defrauded six
    > friends, including the late Kerry Packer’s kidney donor, of
    > nearly $2.5 million has been jailed for a maximum of five
    > years.

    > Gregory Hare, 41, was sentenced today to a minimum three
    > years and nine months after pleading guilty to 14 counts of
    > obtaining financial benefit by deception."

    > Sad how things work out sometimes for some.

    > Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
    > —

    Don’t you wish Gregory Hare could be sentenced to donate at least
    one kidney (preferably two) instead?

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    Alan S wrote:
    > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:56:43 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
    > <shallotp…@comcast.net> wrote:

    >>> Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years
    >>> than the rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old
    >>> and realize that they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many
    >>> of them are stored at the Cryonics Institute. :-)

    >> Enough money early enough, unless accompanied with huge stress, can
    >> buy more years of health. Better diet, better health care, better
    >> preventive maintenance, …

    > Or you can purchase someone else’s health:
    > http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/australasia/helicopter-pilot-

    > "Friday, 24 November 2000

    > Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    > richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    > Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    > donated an organ.

    > Kerry Packer, the Australian media magnate and his country’s
    > richest man, was recovering from a kidney transplant in a
    > Sydney hospital yesterday after the pilot of his helicopter
    > donated an organ."

    > When Packer died five years later, the donor may have asked
    > for it back, unsuccessfully.
    > http://www.naughtypig.com.au/index.php?title=packer_helicopter_pilot_

    > He claimed he didn’t do it for money, but appeared to be
    > fairly well-heeled after the event, until:

    > "03-30-2007
    > http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P1-137201761.html
    > NSW: Man who swindled Kerry Packer kidney donor jailed 5
    > years

    > SYDNEY, March 30 AAP – A former banker who defrauded six
    > friends, including the late Kerry Packer’s kidney donor, of
    > nearly $2.5 million has been jailed for a maximum of five
    > years.

    > Gregory Hare, 41, was sentenced today to a minimum three
    > years and nine months after pleading guilty to 14 counts of
    > obtaining financial benefit by deception."

    > Sad how things work out sometimes for some.

    Geez, what a chain of events :)

  18. admin says:

    "Robert Miles" <robertmi…@bellsouthNOSPAM.net> wrote:
    > "Alan S" <loralgtweightandca…@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > > On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:56:43 -0400, DonnaB shallotpeel
    > > <shallotp…@comcast.net> wrote:
    > > [ . . . ]
    > Don’t you wish Gregory Hare could be sentenced to donate at least
    > one kidney (preferably two) instead?

    Two is funny! ;-D


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  19. admin says:

    Cheri wrote:
    > Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than
    > the rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and
    > realize that they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them
    > are stored at the Cryonics Institute. :-)

    I just had an image – fast forward 50 years Foreman at Cryonics
    Institute saying " with all these takeovers and the increased rents
    we’re going to have to switch off that CEO section they no longer are
    making us a profit"  :-)

      (- -)
    =m=(_)=m=
    RodS T2
    Australia

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    > Cheri
    > Cheri

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    Robert Miles wrote:
    > "Cheri" <gserviceatlodinetdotcom> wrote in message
    > news:gcio9u02a16@news5.newsguy.com…
    >> "hemyd" <myd!!!…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:48ec4a80$0$18429$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au…

    >>> I had often thought – the CEOs with their obscene salaries, hundreds of
    >>> times as large as the rest of us get, must find it frustrating that they
    >>> still get allocated the same or similar lifespan as the rest of us. You
    >>> would think some divine intervention would grant them a few hundred years
    >>> of living to enjoy their extra wealth…..

    >>> Henry Mydlarz
    >> Yes, I’m sure they feel that they are "worthy" of many more years than the
    >> rest of us. It must really piss them off when they get old and realize
    >> that they can’t take it with them. I imagine that many of them are stored
    >> at the Cryonics Institute. :-)

    >> Cheri
    >> Cheri
    > It may be worthwhile to suggest that they contribute to medical research
    > intended to help people live longer.  At least something useful should
    > come out of such research.

    Some do. Lee Iacocca is a big contributor to diabetes research, and is helping
    fund Dr. Faustman’s work at MGH.

  21. admin says:

    MI wrote:
    > Oh, Henry, you’ve gotten too cynical! Unfortunately, your cynicism is firmly
    > grounded in fact. I think it’s the same for all of us. I am sick and tired
    > of the rubbish that is being spouted at us. All well, election day is the
    > 14th and everything will return to normal.

    Funny isn’t it here and in Canada and the UK we can have an election in
    a couple of months in th U.S. it’s like breeding an elephant lots of
    noise and seems to take forever. Must be sponsored by the media there.
    Seems that the length of time doesn’t improve the result tho. :-)

       (- -)
    =m=(_)=m=
    RodS T2
    Australia

  22. admin says:

    In misc.health.diabetes %On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:46:53 -0500, Robert Miles
    wrote:

    > <g…@consolidated.net> wrote in message
    > news:8h4ne4t1ja56s4csohukg2goq2k8bsii6i@4ax.com…

    >> Since the bush crew has allowed ….
    <snip>
    >> I probably will make my vote an expression of dissatisfaction

    > I’d like to have None Of The Above listed as one of the choices
    > on the ballot.

    I had the impression that in the US you have the option of a write in
    candidate, or is this only on specific ballots?.
    Is drawing, and ticking a box with "None of The Above" to show voter
    dis-satisfaction likely to cause the vote to be disallowed as a spoiled
    ballot?
    Is write in capability available with electronic only polling booths?

    > Since it isn’t, a few people here may want to watch a video that
    > is at least somewhat relevant to which candidate seems better
    > for the people in this newsgroup:

    > <http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10034400&…>

    Just my recently discounted Oz 2c worth.

    Lindsay in OZ
    non diabetic but familiarly involved
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