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McDonald's test

Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12 kg
(about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
diseas.
GOOD food , he?

Julius

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15 Responses to “McDonald's test”

  1. admin says:

    Supersize Me!
    Great movie!

    Szaki wrote:
    > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12 kg
    > (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    > diseas.
    > GOOD food , he?

    > Julius


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  2. admin says:

    Szaki wrote:
    > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12 kg
    > (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    > diseas.
    > GOOD food , he?

    > Julius

    you can’t PAY me enough to eat Mickey Dee’s burgers! UGH!!
    In & Out is more like it.  Or Johnny Rockets.

    dave

  3. admin says:

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 21:47:41 GMT, "Szaki" <szak…@comcast.net> wrote:
    >Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    >conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    >McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12 kg
    >(about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    >diseas.
    >GOOD food , he?

    >Julius

    That sounds like the "Supersize Me" movie. I haven’t seen it, but Maccas
    out here are concerned enough to be running a full ad campaign to
    counter it.

    Must be hurting sales badly considering the strength of their reaction.

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    Remove weight and carbs to email.

    Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

  4. admin says:

    Bay Area Dave <it…@nn.com> pounded on the keyboard and wrote:

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    >Szaki wrote:

    >> Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    >> conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    >> McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12 kg
    >> (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    >> diseas.
    >> GOOD food , he?

    >> Julius

    >you can’t PAY me enough to eat Mickey Dee’s burgers! UGH!!
    >In & Out is more like it.  Or Johnny Rockets.

    >dave

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  5. admin says:

    Szaki wrote:
    > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it,
    test was
    > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had
    to eat only
    > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the
    test, he gained
    > 12 kg (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an
    early sign
    > of liver diseas.
    > GOOD food , he?

    Dunno about good food or not but I could eat 3 meals a day
    at Maccas and not gain a pound. Did this guy have no choice
    as to what to eat? Or did they deliberately make him eat
    supersized meals?

  6. admin says:

    On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 10:12:38 +1000, "Ozgirl" <somet…@invalid.com>
    wrote:

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    >Szaki wrote:
    >> Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it,
    >test was
    >> conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had
    >to eat only
    >> McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the
    >test, he gained
    >> 12 kg (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an
    >early sign
    >> of liver diseas.
    >> GOOD food , he?

    >Dunno about good food or not but I could eat 3 meals a day
    >at Maccas and not gain a pound. Did this guy have no choice
    >as to what to eat? Or did they deliberately make him eat
    >supersized meals?

    Hi Ozgirl

    As I said, I haven’t seen it.

    From the web-site at http://www.supersizeme.com (watch for pop-ups):

    "Why are Americans so fat? Find out in Super Size Me, a tongue in-cheek
    – and burger in hand — look at the legal, financial and physical costs
    of America’s hunger for fast food.

    Ominously, 37% of American children and adolescents are carrying too
    much fat and 2 out of every three adults are overweight or obese. Is it
    our fault for lacking self-control, or are the fast-food corporations to
    blame?

    Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock hit the road and interviewed experts in 20
    U.S. cities, including Houston, the "Fattest City" in America. From
    Surgeon Generals to gym teachers, cooks to kids, lawmakers to
    legislators, these authorities shared their research, opinions and "gut
    feelings" on our ever-expanding girth.

    During the journey, Spurlock also put his own body on the line, living
    on nothing but McDonald’s for an entire month with three simple rules:

    1) No options: he could only eat what was available over the counter
    (water included!)
    2) No supersizing unless offered
    3) No excuses: he had to eat every item on the menu at least once

    It all adds up to a fat food bill, harrowing visits to the doctor, and
    compelling viewing for anyone who’s ever wondered if man could live on
    fast food alone.

    The film explores the horror of school lunch programs, declining health
    and physical education classes, food addictions and the extreme measures
    people take to lose weight and regain their health.

    Super Size Me is a satirical jab in the stomach, overstuffed with fat
    and facts about the billion-dollar industry besieged by doctors, lawyers
    and nutritionists alike. "Would you like fries with that?" will never
    sound the same!"

    Not exactly a double-blind study, but certainly interesting.

    Maybe I will see it if it comes here; but the saturation reaction on TV,
    newspapers and on the windows of the local golden arches outlets
    indicates that it has hurt them.

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    Remove weight and carbs to email.

    Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

  7. admin says:

    This is not a diabetic issue.  No storm trooper
    has ever shown up at my door to see what I eat.
     I have not touched a McDonalds product in
     over  ten years.
    I think I have that option yet. Each of us
    decide what we will eat.   I do not let
    gang behavior select what I eat.  And
    I do not own any Mcdonald’s stock.
    Mcdonald who? Last time I checked the
    meat had a bad taste.
                                            Guy                  
    Set back and take sane look at this story.

    On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 12:11:37 +1000, Alan

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    <loralweightandca…@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
    >On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 10:12:38 +1000, "Ozgirl" <somet…@invalid.com>
    >wrote:

    >>Szaki wrote:
    >>> Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it,
    >>test was
    >>> conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had
    >>to eat only
    >>> McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the
    >>test, he gained
    >>> 12 kg (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an
    >>early sign
    >>> of liver diseas.
    >>> GOOD food , he?

    >>Dunno about good food or not but I could eat 3 meals a day
    >>at Maccas and not gain a pound. Did this guy have no choice
    >>as to what to eat? Or did they deliberately make him eat
    >>supersized meals?

    >Hi Ozgirl

    >As I said, I haven’t seen it.

    >From the web-site at http://www.supersizeme.com (watch for pop-ups):

    >"Why are Americans so fat? Find out in Super Size Me, a tongue in-cheek
    >- and burger in hand — look at the legal, financial and physical costs
    >of America’s hunger for fast food.

    >Ominously, 37% of American children and adolescents are carrying too
    >much fat and 2 out of every three adults are overweight or obese. Is it
    >our fault for lacking self-control, or are the fast-food corporations to
    >blame?

    >Filmmaker Morgan Spurlock hit the road and interviewed experts in 20
    >U.S. cities, including Houston, the "Fattest City" in America. From
    >Surgeon Generals to gym teachers, cooks to kids, lawmakers to
    >legislators, these authorities shared their research, opinions and "gut
    >feelings" on our ever-expanding girth.

    >During the journey, Spurlock also put his own body on the line, living
    >on nothing but McDonald’s for an entire month with three simple rules:

    >1) No options: he could only eat what was available over the counter
    >(water included!)
    >2) No supersizing unless offered
    >3) No excuses: he had to eat every item on the menu at least once

    >It all adds up to a fat food bill, harrowing visits to the doctor, and
    >compelling viewing for anyone who’s ever wondered if man could live on
    >fast food alone.

    >The film explores the horror of school lunch programs, declining health
    >and physical education classes, food addictions and the extreme measures
    >people take to lose weight and regain their health.

    >Super Size Me is a satirical jab in the stomach, overstuffed with fat
    >and facts about the billion-dollar industry besieged by doctors, lawyers
    >and nutritionists alike. "Would you like fries with that?" will never
    >sound the same!"

    >Not exactly a double-blind study, but certainly interesting.

    >Maybe I will see it if it comes here; but the saturation reaction on TV,
    >newspapers and on the windows of the local golden arches outlets
    >indicates that it has hurt them.

    >Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    >Remove weight and carbs to email.

  8. admin says:

    "Szaki" <szak…@comcast.net> wrote in message

    news:1QFFc.19591$IQ4.5093@attbi_s02…

    > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12
    kg
    > (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    > diseas.
    > GOOD food , he?

    If you take time to read the study, this person did not eat healthy foods.
    And he ate large quantities.  Nutritious and healthy food can be had there.
    You just have to order properly and perhaps ask for some special items or
    things to be left off.  I do it!


    Type 2
    http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

  9. admin says:

    Yes, you right Julie, but you’re not 16 year old any more, they don’t care
    about healthy food. To them is hamburger, hamburger, sweets, sweets, more,
    more, is the food. That’s what this person tried to simulate.
    Now days fast food places offer variety of foods, including low-carb
    burgers, salads, but kids go for the biggest and the badest burger, with
    milk-shake and super-size fries.

    JS

    "Julie Bove" <jnospamb…@bestweb.net> wrote in message

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    > "Szaki" <szak…@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:1QFFc.19591$IQ4.5093@attbi_s02…
    > > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it, test was
    > > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had to eat only
    > > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the test, he gained 12
    > kg
    > > (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an early sign of liver
    > > diseas.
    > > GOOD food , he?

    > If you take time to read the study, this person did not eat healthy foods.
    > And he ate large quantities.  Nutritious and healthy food can be had
    there.
    > You just have to order properly and perhaps ask for some special items or
    > things to be left off.  I do it!

    > —
    > Type 2
    > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

  10. admin says:

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 22:04:00 -0500, Guy <gs…@intertex.net> wrote:
    >This is not a diabetic issue.  No storm trooper
    >has ever shown up at my door to see what I eat.
    > I have not touched a McDonalds product in
    > over  ten years.
    >I think I have that option yet. Each of us
    >decide what we will eat.   I do not let
    >gang behavior select what I eat.  And
    >I do not own any Mcdonald’s stock.
    >Mcdonald who? Last time I checked the
    >meat had a bad taste.
    >                                        Guy                  
    >Set back and take sane look at this story.

    Guy, I often agree with your feelings on the ngs.

    But, like Patrick on another issue, I disagree that this is not a
    diabetic issue. In fact, for type 2s, diet is probably one of our most
    important issues. Not the only one, but certainly up there with
    complications, medications and exercise.

    And of course no Storm Trooper has appeared at my door in a Ronald
    MacDonald uniform. I strongly believe in personal responsibility.  The
    only Maccas I’ve eaten in the past three years is our local Toasted
    Cheese and Tomato sandwiches, and an occasional cone. I neither endorse
    Maccas – or BK or KFC or Wendys or whoever – or deny their right to ply
    their trade in our free society.

    My meter told me not to eat at any of them, once I started testing.

    But fast food is a fact of life in both our societies and the debate
    about it’s value – and dangers – to our health and our children’s health
    should be free and open. Whether you disagree with the movie, or think
    it’s just entertainment, or even believe it is a serious social comment,
    it is a valid subject for discussion here.

    To a type 2, fast food as an aspect of life is a far more important
    subject than dubya, pot or even HMOs. But they all have an appropriate
    place on this group, with or without an OT.

    Public opinion is a powerful tool; think back to the sixties – can you
    remember any fast-food chain advertising low-fat, or low-carb, or even
    "healthy" in any way? Every little bit helps IMO.

    Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    Remove weight and carbs to email.

    Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

  11. admin says:

    Yes, diet is very important, low carb diet. has to go with exercise
    together.

    Julius

    "Alan" <loralweightandca…@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message

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    > On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 22:04:00 -0500, Guy <gs…@intertex.net> wrote:

    > >This is not a diabetic issue.  No storm trooper
    > >has ever shown up at my door to see what I eat.
    > > I have not touched a McDonalds product in
    > > over  ten years.
    > >I think I have that option yet. Each of us
    > >decide what we will eat.   I do not let
    > >gang behavior select what I eat.  And
    > >I do not own any Mcdonald’s stock.
    > >Mcdonald who? Last time I checked the
    > >meat had a bad taste.
    > >                                        Guy
    > >Set back and take sane look at this story.

    > Guy, I often agree with your feelings on the ngs.

    > But, like Patrick on another issue, I disagree that this is not a
    > diabetic issue. In fact, for type 2s, diet is probably one of our most
    > important issues. Not the only one, but certainly up there with
    > complications, medications and exercise.

    > And of course no Storm Trooper has appeared at my door in a Ronald
    > MacDonald uniform. I strongly believe in personal responsibility.  The
    > only Maccas I’ve eaten in the past three years is our local Toasted
    > Cheese and Tomato sandwiches, and an occasional cone. I neither endorse
    > Maccas – or BK or KFC or Wendys or whoever – or deny their right to ply
    > their trade in our free society.

    > My meter told me not to eat at any of them, once I started testing.

    > But fast food is a fact of life in both our societies and the debate
    > about it’s value – and dangers – to our health and our children’s health
    > should be free and open. Whether you disagree with the movie, or think
    > it’s just entertainment, or even believe it is a serious social comment,
    > it is a valid subject for discussion here.

    > To a type 2, fast food as an aspect of life is a far more important
    > subject than dubya, pot or even HMOs. But they all have an appropriate
    > place on this group, with or without an OT.

    > Public opinion is a powerful tool; think back to the sixties – can you
    > remember any fast-food chain advertising low-fat, or low-carb, or even
    > "healthy" in any way? Every little bit helps IMO.

    > Cheers, Alan, T2 d&e, Australia.
    > Remove weight and carbs to email.
    > —
    > Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.

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    "Ozgirl" <somet…@invalid.com> wrote in message

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    > Szaki wrote:
    > > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it,
    > test was
    > > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had
    > to eat only
    > > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the
    > test, he gained
    > > 12 kg (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an
    > early sign
    > > of liver diseas.
    > > GOOD food , he?

    > Dunno about good food or not but I could eat 3 meals a day
    > at Maccas and not gain a pound. Did this guy have no choice
    > as to what to eat? Or did they deliberately make him eat
    > supersized meals?

    G’day Ozgirl,

    I have on occasions eaten their chicken salad – without the croutons it’s a
    great diabetic food, however I’m sure I’d gain a bit if I ate enough of it
    (or of any other food, as a matter of fact). I am not defending Mackers, but
    you can go to any ‘healthy’ food shop and get something that’s horribly
    unhealthy – or becomes unhealthy if you eat it in a large enough quantity.

    Henry
    Australia

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    "Szaki" <szak…@comcast.net> wrote in message

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    > Yes, you right Julie, but you’re not 16 year old any more, they don’t care
    > about healthy food. To them is hamburger, hamburger, sweets, sweets, more,
    > more, is the food. That’s what this person tried to simulate.
    > Now days fast food places offer variety of foods, including low-carb
    > burgers, salads, but kids go for the biggest and the badest burger, with
    > milk-shake and super-size fries.

    That may be true for some 16 year olds, but it wasn’t for me.  I walked
    around with a bag of trail mix in my purse.  That’s mainly what I ate during
    the day.  I also made it myself so I knew exactly what kinds of nuts/seeds
    went into it.  I was a very busy person at that age.  I played sports in
    school, was in pep club and other after school activities as well as holding
    down a job.  Our family did dine out a lot, but when we did eat at home, I
    did most of the cooking.  We always had a salad with every meal and my
    family was big into health food.  I have never liked overly large portions
    of anything.  In fact, people often joke about the comments I make.  I
    refuse to go to some restaurants because they only have "big" food.  Meaning
    that their portions are so large that they disgust me.  Now I did eat at one
    such place when we lived in CA.  My daughter and I would share a meal.  But
    in general, I dislike having to look at other people eating large amounts of
    food.  Also at age 16, I generally avoided the cafeteria in my school for
    that very reason.  I usually sat on the lawn outside to eat my trail mix.
    Also during that year, my friends and I were able to use an otherwise unused
    room in the school that happened to have a small kitchen in it.  On Fridays,
    we’d take turns making lunch for everyone.  My friends were equally health
    conscious, so I never had to worry about what might be served.  Alas, we got
    a bit too rowdy and lost the use of that room.


    Type 2
    http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/

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    "hemyd" <henmyduns…@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

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    > "Ozgirl" <somet…@invalid.com> wrote in message
    > news:2kp0cbF4ouleU1@uni-berlin.de…
    > > Szaki wrote:
    > > > Yesterday, seen it on DW news, just cought the end of it,
    > > test was
    > > > conducted, a person, in mid 20′s, in perfect health, had
    > > to eat only
    > > > McDonald’s food for a certain period time?. After the
    > > test, he gained
    > > > 12 kg (about 25lb) weight from the food and tested for an
    > > early sign
    > > > of liver diseas.
    > > > GOOD food , he?

    > > Dunno about good food or not but I could eat 3 meals a day
    > > at Maccas and not gain a pound. Did this guy have no choice
    > > as to what to eat? Or did they deliberately make him eat
    > > supersized meals?

    > G’day Ozgirl,

    > I have on occasions eaten their chicken salad – without the croutons it’s
    a
    > great diabetic food, however I’m sure I’d gain a bit if I ate enough of it
    > (or of any other food, as a matter of fact). I am not defending Mackers,
    but
    > you can go to any ‘healthy’ food shop and get something that’s horribly
    > unhealthy – or becomes unhealthy if you eat it in a large enough quantity.

    This is very true.  Here in the US there is a chain of upscale sandwich
    shops which advertises that their food is nutritious.  The ingredients may
    be fresh, nutritious, and otherwise appealing, but a sandwich could feed a
    family of 4.

    If I unexpectedly have to get a meal on the run, I’ll go to McDonalds or
    Wendy’s.  I order the kid’s meal and throw away half the roll or get a small
    hamburger and a salad.  At least I know what the nutritional content is and
    I can plan the rest of the day around it.  This is preferable to paying a
    lot of money for something that I don’t know the nutritional content of.

    You can make good or bad choices anywhere.  I’ve yet to go to a restaurant
    where I haven’t been able to get a salad.


    Best wishes,
    Louise

    Type 2 since 2000
    Controlling by exercise and diet

  15. admin says:

    <<Also at age 16, I generally avoided the cafeteria in my school for
    that very reason.  I usually sat on the lawn outside to eat my trail mix.>>

    Julie, were you over weight at 16, because the caution for food?

    Julius

    "Julie Bove" <jnospamb…@bestweb.net> wrote in message

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    > "Szaki" <szak…@comcast.net> wrote in message
    > news:k2MFc.21235$XM6.4130@attbi_s53…
    > > Yes, you right Julie, but you’re not 16 year old any more, they don’t
    care
    > > about healthy food. To them is hamburger, hamburger, sweets, sweets,
    more,
    > > more, is the food. That’s what this person tried to simulate.
    > > Now days fast food places offer variety of foods, including low-carb
    > > burgers, salads, but kids go for the biggest and the badest burger, with
    > > milk-shake and super-size fries.

    > That may be true for some 16 year olds, but it wasn’t for me.  I walked
    > around with a bag of trail mix in my purse.  That’s mainly what I ate
    during
    > the day.  I also made it myself so I knew exactly what kinds of nuts/seeds
    > went into it.  I was a very busy person at that age.  I played sports in
    > school, was in pep club and other after school activities as well as
    holding
    > down a job.  Our family did dine out a lot, but when we did eat at home, I
    > did most of the cooking.  We always had a salad with every meal and my
    > family was big into health food.  I have never liked overly large portions
    > of anything.  In fact, people often joke about the comments I make.  I
    > refuse to go to some restaurants because they only have "big" food.
    Meaning
    > that their portions are so large that they disgust me.  Now I did eat at
    one
    > such place when we lived in CA.  My daughter and I would share a meal.
    But
    > in general, I dislike having to look at other people eating large amounts
    of
    > food.  Also at age 16, I generally avoided the cafeteria in my school for
    > that very reason.  I usually sat on the lawn outside to eat my trail mix.
    > Also during that year, my friends and I were able to use an otherwise
    unused
    > room in the school that happened to have a small kitchen in it.  On
    Fridays,
    > we’d take turns making lunch for everyone.  My friends were equally health
    > conscious, so I never had to worry about what might be served.  Alas, we
    got
    > a bit too rowdy and lost the use of that room.

    > —
    > Type 2
    > http://users.bestweb.net/~jbove/