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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:43:09 -0400, &quot;George Eberhardt&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;geberha...@comcast.net&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&quot;Herman Rubin&quot; &lt;hru...@odds.stat.purdue.edu&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &gt;news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; In article &lt;10i4putg25b5...@corp.supernews.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; JHA &#160;&lt;jad...@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#039;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &#160;Is this ever done &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; &gt;for T2s? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;&gt; Yes. &#160;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;&gt; correct highs. &#160;I do not think it fast enough. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;I&#039;m a type 2 also. &#160;I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;how fast does it work for you? &#160;how fast do you want to work for you? &lt;br /&gt; are you taking any anti resistance meds? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Mâck©® &lt;br /&gt; Type 1 since 1975 &lt;br /&gt; http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org &lt;br /&gt; http://www.diabetic-talk.org &lt;br /&gt; http://www.insulin-pumpers.org &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;In tribute to the United States of America and the State &lt;br /&gt; &#160;of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and &lt;br /&gt; &#160;terrorism. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&quot;To announce that there must be no criticism of the &lt;br /&gt; &#160;President, or that we are to stand by the President &lt;br /&gt; &#160;right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, &lt;br /&gt; &#160;but is morally treasonable to the American public.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;...Theodore Roosevelt &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;NO C-heney &lt;br /&gt; &#160;NO A-shcroft &lt;br /&gt; &#160;NO R-umsfeld or Rice &lt;br /&gt; &#160;NO B-ush &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:43:09 -0400, &quot;George Eberhardt&quot; <br /> 
<p>&lt;geberha&#8230;@comcast.net&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;&quot;Herman Rubin&quot; &lt;hru&#8230;@odds.stat.purdue.edu&gt; wrote in message <br /> &gt;news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu&#8230; <br /> &gt;&gt; In article &lt;10i4putg25b5&#8230;@corp.supernews.com&gt;, <br /> &gt;&gt; JHA &nbsp;&lt;jad&#8230;@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;&gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#8217;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in <br /> &gt;&gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &nbsp;Is this ever done <br /> &gt;&gt; &gt;for T2s?  </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; Yes. &nbsp;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to <br /> &gt;&gt; correct highs. &nbsp;I do not think it fast enough.  </p>
<p>&gt;I&#8217;m a type 2 also. &nbsp;I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman, <br /> &gt;ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH. </p>
<p>how fast does it work for you? &nbsp;how fast do you want to work for you? <br /> are you taking any anti resistance meds?  </p>
<p>Mâck©® <br /> Type 1 since 1975 <br /> <a href="http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org</a> <br /> <a href="http://www.diabetic-talk.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.diabetic-talk.org</a> <br /> <a href="http://www.insulin-pumpers.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.insulin-pumpers.org</a>  </p>
<p>&nbsp;In tribute to the United States of America and the State <br /> &nbsp;of Israel, two bastions of strength in a world filled with strife and <br /> &nbsp;terrorism.  </p>
<p>&quot;To announce that there must be no criticism of the <br /> &nbsp;President, or that we are to stand by the President <br /> &nbsp;right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, <br /> &nbsp;but is morally treasonable to the American public.&quot;  </p>
<p>&#8230;Theodore Roosevelt  </p>
<p>Have you heard of the NO-CARB Diet for 2004?  </p>
<p>&nbsp;NO C-heney <br /> &nbsp;NO A-shcroft <br /> &nbsp;NO R-umsfeld or Rice <br /> &nbsp;NO B-ush </p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;10i4putg25b5...@corp.supernews.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;JHA &#160;&lt;jad...@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#039;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &#160;Is this ever done &lt;br /&gt; &gt;for T2s? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Yes. &#160;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to &lt;br /&gt; correct highs. &#160;I do not think it fast enough. &lt;br /&gt; -- &lt;br /&gt; This address is for information only. &#160;I do not claim that these views &lt;br /&gt; are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. &lt;br /&gt; Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University &lt;br /&gt; hru...@stat.purdue.edu &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Phone: (765)494-6054 &#160; FAX: (765)494-0558 &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;10i4putg25b5&#8230;@corp.supernews.com&gt;, <br /> 
<p>JHA &nbsp;&lt;jad&#8230;@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt;All the discussion I&#8217;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in <br /> &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &nbsp;Is this ever done <br /> &gt;for T2s? </p>
<p>Yes. &nbsp;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to <br /> correct highs. &nbsp;I do not think it fast enough. <br /> &#8212; <br /> This address is for information only. &nbsp;I do not claim that these views <br /> are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University. <br /> Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University <br /> <a href="mailto:hru...@stat.purdue.edu">hru&#8230;@stat.purdue.edu</a> &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Phone: (765)494-6054 &nbsp; FAX: (765)494-0558 </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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  &quot;Herman Rubin&quot; &lt;hru...@odds.stat.purdue.edu&gt; wrote in message &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&gt; In article &lt;10i4putg25b5...@corp.supernews.com&gt;, &lt;br /&gt; &gt; JHA &#160;&lt;jad...@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#039;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &#160;Is this ever done &lt;br /&gt; &gt; &gt;for T2s? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt; Yes. &#160;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to &lt;br /&gt; &gt; correct highs. &#160;I do not think it fast enough. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a type 2 also. &#160;I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman, &lt;br /&gt; ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br /&gt; George Eberhardt &lt;br /&gt; (732)224-8988 &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Herman Rubin&quot; &lt;hru&#8230;@odds.stat.purdue.edu&gt; wrote in message </p>
<p>news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu&#8230; <br /> 
<p>&gt; In article &lt;10i4putg25b5&#8230;@corp.supernews.com&gt;, <br /> &gt; JHA &nbsp;&lt;jad&#8230;@rossinilaw.com&gt; wrote: <br /> &gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#8217;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in <br /> &gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &nbsp;Is this ever done <br /> &gt; &gt;for T2s?  </p>
<p>&gt; Yes. &nbsp;I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to <br /> &gt; correct highs. &nbsp;I do not think it fast enough. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a type 2 also. &nbsp;I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman, <br /> ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH.  </p>
<p>&#8211; <br /> George Eberhardt <br /> (732)224-8988 </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  JHA wrote: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; All the discussion I&#039;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in &lt;br /&gt; &gt; conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &#160;Is this ever done &lt;br /&gt; &gt; for T2s? &#160;If not, is that because (a) it doesn&#039;t work (b) it&#039;s a Bad &lt;br /&gt; &gt; Idea becaue _________ (c) people can&#039;t stand the injections (d) I want &lt;br /&gt; &gt; to phone a friends. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I&#039;m a T2. &#160;I use Novolog and Lantus. &lt;br /&gt; Jon &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JHA wrote: <br /> &gt; All the discussion I&#8217;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in <br /> &gt; conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &nbsp;Is this ever done <br /> &gt; for T2s? &nbsp;If not, is that because (a) it doesn&#8217;t work (b) it&#8217;s a Bad <br /> &gt; Idea becaue _________ (c) people can&#8217;t stand the injections (d) I want <br /> &gt; to phone a friends. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a T2. &nbsp;I use Novolog and Lantus. <br /> Jon </p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  &lt;p&gt;JHA wrote in message &lt;10i4putg25b5...@corp.supernews.com&gt;... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;All the discussion I&#039;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in &lt;br /&gt; &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &#160;Is this ever done &lt;br /&gt; &gt;for T2s? &#160;If not, is that because (a) it doesn&#039;t work (b) it&#039;s a Bad &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Idea becaue _________ (c) people can&#039;t stand the injections (d) I want &lt;br /&gt; &gt;to phone a friends. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;The modern ultra-rapid insulins Humalog, &#160;Novolog and Apidra are routinely &lt;br /&gt; prescribed for Type 2 diabetics for before-meal use. &#160; &#160; So are the older &lt;br /&gt; and slower &quot;rapid&quot; insulins like Insulin R, &#160; Actarapid, &#160;etc. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Type 2 diabetics probably consume most of the ultra-rapid and &quot;rapid&#039; &lt;br /&gt; insulin production. &#160; &#160;(AFAIK, &#160;they use 80% of all insulin produced but I &lt;br /&gt; don&#039;t know how that breaks down by type) &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;However: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;a. &#160;The modern ultra-rapid insulins cost over twice as much as the older &lt;br /&gt; &quot;rapid&quot; insulins &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160; &#160;b. &#160;Some docs are nervous about using such powerful insulins with certain &lt;br /&gt; types of patient, &#160; i.e. &#160;many docs would rather many of their patients &lt;br /&gt; face the risk of high blood sugars rather then the risk of a low or a hypo. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Speaking as a patient who has used both, &#160;I vote for the ultra-rapid. &#160; (If &lt;br /&gt; I could vote twice, &#160;I would). &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&#160;It might seem from a superficial look at their properties that the modern &lt;br /&gt; ultra-rapid insulins are more difficult to use but my experience is that &lt;br /&gt; they are easier to use. . . . if by the word &quot;use&quot; you mean &quot;use to generate &lt;br /&gt; healthy blood sugars in diabetics&quot;. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Regards &lt;br /&gt; &#160; Old Al &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JHA wrote in message &lt;10i4putg25b5&#8230;@corp.supernews.com&gt;&#8230; <br /> &gt;All the discussion I&#8217;ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in <br /> &gt;conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK). &nbsp;Is this ever done <br /> &gt;for T2s? &nbsp;If not, is that because (a) it doesn&#8217;t work (b) it&#8217;s a Bad <br /> &gt;Idea becaue _________ (c) people can&#8217;t stand the injections (d) I want <br /> &gt;to phone a friends. </p>
<p>The modern ultra-rapid insulins Humalog, &nbsp;Novolog and Apidra are routinely <br /> prescribed for Type 2 diabetics for before-meal use. &nbsp; &nbsp; So are the older <br /> and slower &quot;rapid&quot; insulins like Insulin R, &nbsp; Actarapid, &nbsp;etc.  </p>
<p>Type 2 diabetics probably consume most of the ultra-rapid and &quot;rapid&#8217; <br /> insulin production. &nbsp; &nbsp;(AFAIK, &nbsp;they use 80% of all insulin produced but I <br /> don&#8217;t know how that breaks down by type)  </p>
<p>However:  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;a. &nbsp;The modern ultra-rapid insulins cost over twice as much as the older <br /> &quot;rapid&quot; insulins  </p>
<p>&nbsp; &nbsp;b. &nbsp;Some docs are nervous about using such powerful insulins with certain <br /> types of patient, &nbsp; i.e. &nbsp;many docs would rather many of their patients <br /> face the risk of high blood sugars rather then the risk of a low or a hypo.  </p>
<p>Speaking as a patient who has used both, &nbsp;I vote for the ultra-rapid. &nbsp; (If <br /> I could vote twice, &nbsp;I would).  </p>
<p>&nbsp;It might seem from a superficial look at their properties that the modern <br /> ultra-rapid insulins are more difficult to use but my experience is that <br /> they are easier to use. . . . if by the word &quot;use&quot; you mean &quot;use to generate <br /> healthy blood sugars in diabetics&quot;.  </p>
<p>Regards <br /> &nbsp; Old Al </p>
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