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Fast insulin for T2s?

All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
for T2s?  If not, is that because (a) it doesn’t work (b) it’s a Bad
Idea becaue _________ (c) people can’t stand the injections (d) I want
to phone a friends.

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5 Responses to “Fast insulin for T2s?”

  1. admin says:

    JHA wrote in message <10i4putg25b5…@corp.supernews.com>…
    >All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
    >conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
    >for T2s?  If not, is that because (a) it doesn’t work (b) it’s a Bad
    >Idea becaue _________ (c) people can’t stand the injections (d) I want
    >to phone a friends.

    The modern ultra-rapid insulins Humalog,  Novolog and Apidra are routinely
    prescribed for Type 2 diabetics for before-meal use.     So are the older
    and slower "rapid" insulins like Insulin R,   Actarapid,  etc.

    Type 2 diabetics probably consume most of the ultra-rapid and "rapid’
    insulin production.    (AFAIK,  they use 80% of all insulin produced but I
    don’t know how that breaks down by type)

    However:

       a.  The modern ultra-rapid insulins cost over twice as much as the older
    "rapid" insulins

       b.  Some docs are nervous about using such powerful insulins with certain
    types of patient,   i.e.  many docs would rather many of their patients
    face the risk of high blood sugars rather then the risk of a low or a hypo.

    Speaking as a patient who has used both,  I vote for the ultra-rapid.   (If
    I could vote twice,  I would).

     It might seem from a superficial look at their properties that the modern
    ultra-rapid insulins are more difficult to use but my experience is that
    they are easier to use. . . . if by the word "use" you mean "use to generate
    healthy blood sugars in diabetics".

    Regards
      Old Al

  2. admin says:

    JHA wrote:
    > All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
    > conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
    > for T2s?  If not, is that because (a) it doesn’t work (b) it’s a Bad
    > Idea becaue _________ (c) people can’t stand the injections (d) I want
    > to phone a friends.

    I’m a T2.  I use Novolog and Lantus.
    Jon

  3. admin says:

    In article <10i4putg25b5…@corp.supernews.com>,

    JHA  <jad…@rossinilaw.com> wrote:
    >All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
    >conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
    >for T2s?

    Yes.  I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to
    correct highs.  I do not think it fast enough.

    This address is for information only.  I do not claim that these views
    are those of the Statistics Department or of Purdue University.
    Herman Rubin, Department of Statistics, Purdue University
    hru…@stat.purdue.edu         Phone: (765)494-6054   FAX: (765)494-0558

  4. admin says:

    "Herman Rubin" <hru…@odds.stat.purdue.edu> wrote in message

    news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu…

    > In article <10i4putg25b5…@corp.supernews.com>,
    > JHA  <jad…@rossinilaw.com> wrote:
    > >All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
    > >conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
    > >for T2s?

    > Yes.  I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to
    > correct highs.  I do not think it fast enough.

    I’m a type 2 also.  I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman,
    ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH.


    George Eberhardt
    (732)224-8988

  5. admin says:

    On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:43:09 -0400, "George Eberhardt"

    <geberha…@comcast.net> wrote:
    >"Herman Rubin" <hru…@odds.stat.purdue.edu> wrote in message
    >news:cfvqbv$16cc@odds.stat.purdue.edu…
    >> In article <10i4putg25b5…@corp.supernews.com>,
    >> JHA  <jad…@rossinilaw.com> wrote:
    >> >All the discussion I’ve seen about using fast-acting insulin in
    >> >conjunction with meals has been about/by T1s (AFIK).  Is this ever done
    >> >for T2s?

    >> Yes.  I use the faster-acting insulin for meals, and to
    >> correct highs.  I do not think it fast enough.

    >I’m a type 2 also.  I use fast insulin in my pump, and I agree with Herman,
    >ITS NOT FAST ENOUGH.

    how fast does it work for you?  how fast do you want to work for you?
    are you taking any anti resistance meds?

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