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  &lt;p&gt;In article &lt;2unnv6...@bbs.pnl.gov&gt; sc_marsch...@pnl.gov (Steve Marschman) writes: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;Here&#039;s my dilema: &lt;br /&gt; &gt; [...] &lt;br /&gt; &gt;with bgs ranging from 67 to 115 mg/dl. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Steve, I&#039;m not trying to be cruel. But I envy your Bg&#039;s. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;My problem? &#160;Low blood pressure and pulse. &#160;I wake up with a pulse rate of &lt;br /&gt; &gt;37 to 40 beats per minute, sit at my desk in the 40s, walk around in the 50s, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;exersize well within the aerobic limits for my age. &#160;My blood pressure has &lt;br /&gt; &gt;ranged from 103/43 to 115/55. &#160;Even after excersizing, I am lucky to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;reach 115/75. My biggest concern has been standing up quickly from a &lt;br /&gt; &gt;crouching or sitting position. I come very close to unconsciousness. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Low blood pressure is not related to diabetes, though I&#039;m no doctor. &lt;br /&gt; Low blood pressure helps maintain capillary structure and prevent breakage &lt;br /&gt; that can affect people&#039;s retina&#039;s for diabetic and non-diabetic alike. &lt;br /&gt; Personnel opinion, it seems to work. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My blood pressure is regularly 100-112/55-75 though I&#039;ve had readings lower. &lt;br /&gt; If you are exercising a great deal, salt is the greatest determinant of the &lt;br /&gt; amount of water you retain and consequently determines your blood pressure. &lt;br /&gt; Since you exercise a great deal you may need more salt in your diet ( please &lt;br /&gt; only if your blood pressure is low). I have similar readings and I don&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; find it low. I am bothered when it gets down to 95/50 though. My favorite &lt;br /&gt; cures are Clausen dill pickles and salt on a big salad with black calmata &lt;br /&gt; olives. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you are urinating frequenty as if you blood sugar is high, which it &lt;br /&gt; certainly isn&#039;t. There is some conditions related to Adrenal Insufficiency &lt;br /&gt; where the Adrenal Gland stops producing eldosterone ( and your doctor says &lt;br /&gt; this urination is related to the diabetes ). I know this problem. &lt;br /&gt; Eldosterone is a steroid that controls the level of salt your body retains. &lt;br /&gt; This controls the amount of water and hence your blood pressure. &lt;br /&gt; Adrenal Glands ( you have two, one at the very top of each kidney ) &lt;br /&gt; produce 64 different steroids, though the major sub-categories are &lt;br /&gt; cortisone, testosterone, and eldosterone. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;While in the DCCT, there was an autonomic nervous system test where the &lt;br /&gt; patient lay on a table for a couple of minutes concentrating on timed slow &lt;br /&gt; breathing. A blood pressure was taken. Then the patient stood up and another &lt;br /&gt; blood pressure was taken. Pre-Adrenal Insufficiency diagnosis, I was 97/52 &lt;br /&gt; while lying down, when I stood up Chris Cauthier-Kelley, our nurse, said &lt;br /&gt; &quot;David, I can&#039;t get a blood pressure, don&#039;t fall over. Lean against the table! &lt;br /&gt; You&#039;re too big.&quot; I was diagnosed later that day. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adrenal Insufficiency is an extremely Rare condition. You probably don&#039;t &lt;br /&gt; have this problem. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Good Luck, speak to a good internist, and let me know. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In article &lt;2unnv6&#8230;@bbs.pnl.gov&gt; <a href="mailto:sc_marsch...@pnl.gov">sc_marsch&#8230;@pnl.gov</a> (Steve Marschman) writes: <br /> &gt;Here&#8217;s my dilema: <br /> &gt; [...] <br /> &gt;with bgs ranging from 67 to 115 mg/dl. </p>
<p>Steve, I&#8217;m not trying to be cruel. But I envy your Bg&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>&gt;My problem? &nbsp;Low blood pressure and pulse. &nbsp;I wake up with a pulse rate of <br /> &gt;37 to 40 beats per minute, sit at my desk in the 40s, walk around in the 50s, <br /> &gt;exersize well within the aerobic limits for my age. &nbsp;My blood pressure has <br /> &gt;ranged from 103/43 to 115/55. &nbsp;Even after excersizing, I am lucky to <br /> &gt;reach 115/75. My biggest concern has been standing up quickly from a <br /> &gt;crouching or sitting position. I come very close to unconsciousness. </p>
<p>Low blood pressure is not related to diabetes, though I&#8217;m no doctor. <br /> Low blood pressure helps maintain capillary structure and prevent breakage <br /> that can affect people&#8217;s retina&#8217;s for diabetic and non-diabetic alike. <br /> Personnel opinion, it seems to work.  </p>
<p>My blood pressure is regularly 100-112/55-75 though I&#8217;ve had readings lower. <br /> If you are exercising a great deal, salt is the greatest determinant of the <br /> amount of water you retain and consequently determines your blood pressure. <br /> Since you exercise a great deal you may need more salt in your diet ( please <br /> only if your blood pressure is low). I have similar readings and I don&#8217;t <br /> find it low. I am bothered when it gets down to 95/50 though. My favorite <br /> cures are Clausen dill pickles and salt on a big salad with black calmata <br /> olives.  </p>
<p>If you are urinating frequenty as if you blood sugar is high, which it <br /> certainly isn&#8217;t. There is some conditions related to Adrenal Insufficiency <br /> where the Adrenal Gland stops producing eldosterone ( and your doctor says <br /> this urination is related to the diabetes ). I know this problem. <br /> Eldosterone is a steroid that controls the level of salt your body retains. <br /> This controls the amount of water and hence your blood pressure. <br /> Adrenal Glands ( you have two, one at the very top of each kidney ) <br /> produce 64 different steroids, though the major sub-categories are <br /> cortisone, testosterone, and eldosterone.  </p>
<p>While in the DCCT, there was an autonomic nervous system test where the <br /> patient lay on a table for a couple of minutes concentrating on timed slow <br /> breathing. A blood pressure was taken. Then the patient stood up and another <br /> blood pressure was taken. Pre-Adrenal Insufficiency diagnosis, I was 97/52 <br /> while lying down, when I stood up Chris Cauthier-Kelley, our nurse, said <br /> &quot;David, I can&#8217;t get a blood pressure, don&#8217;t fall over. Lean against the table! <br /> You&#8217;re too big.&quot; I was diagnosed later that day.  </p>
<p>Adrenal Insufficiency is an extremely Rare condition. You probably don&#8217;t <br /> have this problem.  </p>
<p>Good Luck, speak to a good internist, and let me know. </p>
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  &lt;p&gt;&gt;Here&#039;s my dilema: &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I was diagnosed as Type II at the end of December 1993. &#160;After getting the *** &lt;br /&gt; &gt;scared out of me, I lost 65 pounds and have returned to a &quot;fit and healthy&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;lifestyle... &lt;br /&gt; &gt;My problem? &#160;Low blood pressure and pulse... &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;It is possible that you have a form of neuropathy that affects the &lt;br /&gt; autonomic system. &#160;That controls such things that you described. &#160;It would &lt;br /&gt; indicate uncontrolled bGs for a long time before diagnosis, in my opinion &lt;br /&gt; (not an md). &#160;Now that you are controlling your bG, you might see an &lt;br /&gt; improvement in these things. &#160;Your endocrinologist can better tell whether &lt;br /&gt; this is neuropathy and can give you help with it. &#160;Please let us know &lt;br /&gt; what you learn! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lee Boylan &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>It is possible that you have a form of neuropathy that affects the <br /> autonomic system. &nbsp;That controls such things that you described. &nbsp;It would <br /> indicate uncontrolled bGs for a long time before diagnosis, in my opinion <br /> (not an md). &nbsp;Now that you are controlling your bG, you might see an <br /> improvement in these things. &nbsp;Your endocrinologist can better tell whether <br /> this is neuropathy and can give you help with it. &nbsp;Please let us know <br /> what you learn!  </p>
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  Steve, &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#039;d say whoever scared the **** out of you did too good a job. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You&#039;ve lost 65 lbs. in 6 months. &#160;That is *awfully* fast. &#160;Low blood &lt;br /&gt; sugar, low blood pressure, and a slow pulse can be signs of inadequate &lt;br /&gt; nutrition. &#160;If you are not on medication, your sugars should be higher &lt;br /&gt; than that. &#160;And those symptoms put you at risk, not only of keeling over &lt;br /&gt; from hypoglycemia, but of keeling over from cardiac arrest. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You probably are not eating eating enough now and have lost weight too &lt;br /&gt; fast. &#160;Eating more would help raise your blood sugars into the normal &lt;br /&gt; range (80-130), but the heart and blood pressure problems may or may not &lt;br /&gt; be related to the rapid weight loss. &#160;And they are dangerous. &#160;You should &lt;br /&gt; get checked out ASAP by a cardiologist--you might need a pacemaker. &#160;And &lt;br /&gt; be sure that the cardiologist knows the details (including how quickly you &lt;br /&gt; made changes) about your diet, exercise, and weight loss, as well as your &lt;br /&gt; diabetes. &#160;As far as the blood pressure goes, ask your doctor about eating &lt;br /&gt; more salt. &#160;That may raise your blood pressure as a temporary measure. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And cancel the trip. &#160;It&#039;s not worth coming home dead. &#160;Also, forget the &lt;br /&gt; workouts for now--see the cardiologist first. &#160;Ask your doctor about &lt;br /&gt; walking, but don&#039;t do anything more strenuous until the cardiologist gives &lt;br /&gt; you the okay. &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>I&#8217;d say whoever scared the **** out of you did too good a job.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve lost 65 lbs. in 6 months. &nbsp;That is *awfully* fast. &nbsp;Low blood <br /> sugar, low blood pressure, and a slow pulse can be signs of inadequate <br /> nutrition. &nbsp;If you are not on medication, your sugars should be higher <br /> than that. &nbsp;And those symptoms put you at risk, not only of keeling over <br /> from hypoglycemia, but of keeling over from cardiac arrest.  </p>
<p>You probably are not eating eating enough now and have lost weight too <br /> fast. &nbsp;Eating more would help raise your blood sugars into the normal <br /> range (80-130), but the heart and blood pressure problems may or may not <br /> be related to the rapid weight loss. &nbsp;And they are dangerous. &nbsp;You should <br /> get checked out ASAP by a cardiologist&#8211;you might need a pacemaker. &nbsp;And <br /> be sure that the cardiologist knows the details (including how quickly you <br /> made changes) about your diet, exercise, and weight loss, as well as your <br /> diabetes. &nbsp;As far as the blood pressure goes, ask your doctor about eating <br /> more salt. &nbsp;That may raise your blood pressure as a temporary measure.  </p>
<p>And cancel the trip. &nbsp;It&#8217;s not worth coming home dead. &nbsp;Also, forget the <br /> workouts for now&#8211;see the cardiologist first. &nbsp;Ask your doctor about <br /> walking, but don&#8217;t do anything more strenuous until the cardiologist gives <br /> you the okay. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  In article &lt;2unnv6...@bbs.pnl.gov&gt;, sc_marsch...@pnl.gov (Steve Marschman) says: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;Here&#039;s my dilema: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;I was diagnosed as Type II at the end of December 1993. &#160;After getting the **** &lt;br /&gt; &gt;scared out of me, I lost 65 pounds and have returned to a &quot;fit and healthy&quot; &lt;br /&gt; &gt;lifestyle. &#160;I ride my mountain bike about 150 miles a week, work out at the gym, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;blah, blah, blah... I maintain &quot;control&quot; with diet and exersize. &#160;I am 37 years old, &lt;br /&gt; &gt;5&#039;8&quot;, 180 pounds, under 10 percent body fat (just measured), with bgs ranging &lt;br /&gt; &gt;from 67 to 115 mg/dl. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&gt;My problem? &#160;Low blood pressure and pulse. &#160;I wake up with a pulse rate of 37 to &lt;br /&gt; &gt;40 beats per minute, sit at my desk in the 40s, walk around in the 50s, exersize well &lt;br /&gt; &gt;within the aerobic limits for my age. &#160;My blood pressure (taken in both arms at rest) &lt;br /&gt; &gt;has ranged from 103/43 to 115/55. &#160;Even after excersizing, I am lucky to reach 115/75. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;My biggest concern has been standing up quickly from a crouching or sitting position. &lt;br /&gt; &gt;I come very close to unconsciousness &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;WHOOPS, MAJOR SLIP OF THE KEYSTROKE! &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I come very close to unconsciousness, vision turns black, dizzyness, etc. &#160;I stopped &lt;br /&gt; in to see my doctor to check up on this because I am heading out for an 800 mile &lt;br /&gt; bike tour of Oregon this weekend. &#160;She hit the roof! &#160;She wants me to cancel &lt;br /&gt; my ride, quit training so hard, and put weight back on! &#160;She says I am letting my &lt;br /&gt; bg get too low which is the reason for the low blood pressure and near black outs. &lt;br /&gt; She is concerned that I&#039;ll flop over somewhere out on the highway and get runover &lt;br /&gt; or something equally unpleasant. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Before I run out and seek a second medical opinion (because finding a doctor that &lt;br /&gt; understands diabetes, sports medicine, and cardiology is nearly impossible where &lt;br /&gt; I live), has anyone: &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1.) &#160;had similar experiences, &lt;br /&gt; 2.) &#160;does her advice sound reasonable (I&#039;m not sure I bought it) &lt;br /&gt; 3.) &#160;as a diabetic am I going to be limited on my physical activities? &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions, etc. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Steve &lt;br /&gt; As always, my opinions are my own, and boy, do they get me in trouble! &lt;br /&gt;
  
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<p>&gt;Here&#8217;s my dilema:  </p>
<p>&gt;I was diagnosed as Type II at the end of December 1993. &nbsp;After getting the **** <br /> &gt;scared out of me, I lost 65 pounds and have returned to a &quot;fit and healthy&quot; <br /> &gt;lifestyle. &nbsp;I ride my mountain bike about 150 miles a week, work out at the gym, <br /> &gt;blah, blah, blah&#8230; I maintain &quot;control&quot; with diet and exersize. &nbsp;I am 37 years old, <br /> &gt;5&#8217;8&quot;, 180 pounds, under 10 percent body fat (just measured), with bgs ranging <br /> &gt;from 67 to 115 mg/dl.  </p>
<p>&gt;My problem? &nbsp;Low blood pressure and pulse. &nbsp;I wake up with a pulse rate of 37 to <br /> &gt;40 beats per minute, sit at my desk in the 40s, walk around in the 50s, exersize well <br /> &gt;within the aerobic limits for my age. &nbsp;My blood pressure (taken in both arms at rest) <br /> &gt;has ranged from 103/43 to 115/55. &nbsp;Even after excersizing, I am lucky to reach 115/75. <br /> &gt;My biggest concern has been standing up quickly from a crouching or sitting position. <br /> &gt;I come very close to unconsciousness </p>
<p>WHOOPS, MAJOR SLIP OF THE KEYSTROKE!  </p>
<p>I come very close to unconsciousness, vision turns black, dizzyness, etc. &nbsp;I stopped <br /> in to see my doctor to check up on this because I am heading out for an 800 mile <br /> bike tour of Oregon this weekend. &nbsp;She hit the roof! &nbsp;She wants me to cancel <br /> my ride, quit training so hard, and put weight back on! &nbsp;She says I am letting my <br /> bg get too low which is the reason for the low blood pressure and near black outs. <br /> She is concerned that I&#8217;ll flop over somewhere out on the highway and get runover <br /> or something equally unpleasant.  </p>
<p>Before I run out and seek a second medical opinion (because finding a doctor that <br /> understands diabetes, sports medicine, and cardiology is nearly impossible where <br /> I live), has anyone:  </p>
<p>1.) &nbsp;had similar experiences, <br /> 2.) &nbsp;does her advice sound reasonable (I&#8217;m not sure I bought it) <br /> 3.) &nbsp;as a diabetic am I going to be limited on my physical activities?  </p>
<p>Thanks in advance for any advice, suggestions, etc.  </p>
<p>Steve <br /> As always, my opinions are my own, and boy, do they get me in trouble! </p>
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