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Diabetes and fasting

Dear friends,

We’ve discovered that my mother suffered with diabetes about 2 months ago.
She has the 2-nd type (insluine independent) and drinks Diabeton. The main
way she makes the glucose levels to decrease is physical excercises and
Yoga.

She used to fast for a few years before and feels now that this might help.
The scheme was a day without food completely with a very gentle end of the
procedure and getting back to food.

I’d appreciate much your opinion and experience: will fasting help, or can
it harm?

Also, does the glucose level depend on the season? The average level before
was 120 (with Diabeton), now it’s very hard to decrease it lower than 140,
why could it be?

Thank you in advance.
Vladimir Gukassyan

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    > Dear friends,

    > We’ve discovered that my mother suffered with diabetes about 2 months ago.
    > She has the 2-nd type (insluine independent) and drinks Diabeton. The main
    > way she makes the glucose levels to decrease is physical excercises and
    > Yoga.

    > She used to fast for a few years before and feels now that this might
    help.
    > The scheme was a day without food completely with a very gentle end of the
    > procedure and getting back to food.

    > I’d appreciate much your opinion and experience: will fasting help, or can
    > it harm?

    > Also, does the glucose level depend on the season? The average level
    before
    > was 120 (with Diabeton), now it’s very hard to decrease it lower than 140,
    > why could it be?

    Fasting is the worst thing a diabetic can do.  Why?  The body expects to be
    fed several times a day.  When no food comes, the liver dumps glucose and BG
    (blood glucose) shoots even higher.  She could also have the opposite
    problem.  A hypo, or low blood sugar.  Or she could have a combination of
    both.  This will leave her feeling very unwell.

    You do not mention what she *does* eat.  It is carbs that raise our BG the
    most.  Carb laden foods include bread, cereal, rice, pasta, dried beans,
    peas, corn, potatoes, fruit, juice, milk, and of course sweets.  Eat too
    many of these things and BG will be too high.

    What kind of exercise does she do besides Yoga?  Yoga is a good form of
    exercise, but not in terms of BG.  Walking and working out with weights are
    better for lowering BG.  Also, it could be that she needs more meds and or
    different meds.


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    >Dear friends,

    >We’ve discovered that my mother suffered with diabetes about 2 months ago.
    >She has the 2-nd type (insluine independent) and drinks Diabeton. The main
    >way she makes the glucose levels to decrease is physical excercises and
    >Yoga.

    >She used to fast for a few years before and feels now that this might help.
    >The scheme was a day without food completely with a very gentle end of the
    >procedure and getting back to food.

    >I’d appreciate much your opinion and experience: will fasting help, or can
    >it harm?

    >Also, does the glucose level depend on the season? The average level before
    >was 120 (with Diabeton), now it’s very hard to decrease it lower than 140,
    >why could it be?

    >Thank you in advance.
    >Vladimir Gukassyan

       I’m not certain what Diabeton is.    In India,  it seems to be a mixed
    drug,  containing a high dose of the beta cell stimulator drug called
    Gliclazide   (80 mg) and a low dose of an anti-Insulin Resistance drug
    called  metformin  (500 mg).   In the Ukraine,  it seems to be Gliclazide
    only.

    Fasting while taking a beta cell stimulator drug such as Gliclazide is
    usually not recommended.   The Gliclazide ingredient in the Diabeton will
    stimulate her beta cells to manufacture insulin but if she fasts,   the
    extra insulin can force her blood sugar too low and she may pass out.

    Many of our better doctors prefer to use the most useful dose of daily
    metformin before considering adding Gliclazide to the diabetic’s daily
    medicines.   If it is possible,  she would do well if she could find a way
    to take metformin at 1500 mg/day,  then ration the Gliclazide as needed to
    fine-tune her  blood sugar.

    The most useful dose of metformin is considered to be at least 1500 mg/day.
    If the Diabeton she is using contains metformin,   and she took sufficient
    Diabeton to supply 1500 mg/day of metformin,  she would consume too much
    Gliclazide and might suffer from overdose.

    The blood sugar control of a diabetic and thus the apparent effectiveness of
    any anti-Diabetes drugs will depend on the amount of exercise,   any
    illnesses, and the amount of carbohydrate which one eats, i.e.:

    a.  High levels of exercise will make the medicine work better.
    b.  Illness,  stress or pain will often defeat the medicine.
    c.  Too much carbohydrate in the diet will overpower the medicine.

    Your mother’s higher blood sugars could be caused by any or all of these
    effects.

    Also,   your mother will do best if,  in addition to her Diabeton,  she:

        a.  Loses fat pounds,  especially abdominal fat
        b.  Exercises every day
        c.  Severely controls and rations the total amount of carbohydrate she
    consumes each day

    Regards
      Old Al