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5 Tips for Avoiding Cardiovascular Disease
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Kurt wrote:
> http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
Because type-2 diabetes (T2DM) is a "risk equivalent" for
cardiovascular disease (CVD), folks wanting to avoid CVD have a need
to avoid T2DM.
The latter is achieved by not overeating so as not to acquire VAT,
which is the root cause of T2DM.
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On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 23:44:11 -0700 (PDT), Kurt
<kurtwheeling1…@hotmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
From the link:
"A1C levels of less than 7 percent can also have heart
healthy benefits."
Not when compared to A1c levels of less than 6 percent.
"Eat wisely.
Cut back on foods high in saturated fat, trans fat, and
cholesterol, such as butter, eggs, meat, and whole milk. Eat
more foods high in fiber like fruits, vegetables, and whole
grain breads."
No thanks.
I’ll stick to aiming under 6% and eating in a way that does
not give me post-prandial spikes. Eating more fruits and
whole grain breads does not help me do that.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
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convicted neighbor Alan S wrote:
> Kurt <kurtwheeling1…@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
> From the link:
> "A1C levels of less than 7 percent can also have heart
> healthy benefits."
> Not when compared to A1c levels of less than 6 percent.
There remains the concern that more aggressive medical therapy with
goal of lowering A1c to less than 6 percent would have the untoward
result of iatrogenic hypoglycemia which can be fatal.
> "Eat wisely.
> Cut back on foods high in saturated fat, trans fat, and
> cholesterol, such as butter, eggs, meat, and whole milk. Eat
> more foods high in fiber like fruits, vegetables, and whole
> grain breads."
> No thanks.
It remains wiser to eat less down to the right amount.
Once at the right amount and staying at the right amount, continuing
to eat the right things would be prudent.
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> >http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
> From the link:
> "A1C levels of less than 7 percent can also have heart
> healthy benefits."
> Not when compared to A1c levels of less than 6 percent.
"There remains the concern that more aggressive medical therapy with
goal of lowering A1c to less than 6 percent would have the untoward
result of iatrogenic hypoglycemia which can be fatal."
"Remains" is at this time undemonstrated speculation. Any a1c above
normal of 5 and less or so is shown to have additional cvd risk in a
lineal manner.
> "Eat wisely.
> Cut back on foods high in saturated fat, trans fat, and
> cholesterol, such as butter, eggs, meat, and whole milk. Eat
> more foods high in fiber like fruits, vegetables, and whole
> grain breads."
> No thanks.
"It remains wiser to eat less down to the right amount."
Yes, calorie restriction is wise if overweight.
"Once at the right amount and staying at the right amount, continuing to
eat the right things would be prudent."
Starting to eat the right things should begin with the start of calorie
restriction. The right choices in foods can aid in weight loss.
Not forgetting exercise for its many metabolic benefits at the cel level
and for selectively losing vat; and it aids in calorie consumption also.
Calorie restriction, wise food choices, and exercise are the 3 legs of
the weight loss and maintenance stool.
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>> >http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
>> From the link:
>> "A1C levels of less than 7 percent can also have heart
>> healthy benefits."
>> Not when compared to A1c levels of less than 6 percent.
> "There remains the concern that more aggressive medical therapy with
> goal of lowering A1c to less than 6 percent would have the untoward
> result of iatrogenic hypoglycemia which can be fatal."
> "Remains" is at this time undemonstrated speculation. Any a1c above
> normal of 5 and less or so is shown to have additional cvd risk in a
> lineal manner.
Here in alt.support.diabetes, we’ve found that lowering your A1C to less
than 6 percent by restricting carbs in your diet is more effective and safer
than using aggressive medical treatment instead, at least for type 2
diabetics (the more common type). There doesn’t seem to be much
research testing this method, though.
http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
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> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> > convicted neighbor Don Kirkman wrote:
> >> >> >> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >> >> >> > Kurt wrote:
> >> >> >> >> http://www.joslin.org/managing_your_diabetes_4494.asp
> >> >> >> > Because type-2 diabetes (T2DM) is a "risk equivalent" for
> >> >> >> > cardiovascular disease (CVD), folks wanting to avoid CVD have a need
> >> >> >> > to avoid T2DM.
> >> >> >> > The latter is achieved by not overeating so as not to acquire VAT,
> >> >> >> > which is the root cause of T2DM.
> >> >> >> Lowering risk is NOT equivalent to avoiding CVD.
> >> >> > However, having a "risk equivalent" for CVD is synonymous with having
> >> >> > CVD.
> >> >> Only if the risk is 100%.
> >> >Incorrect.
> >> >T2DM is a "risk equivalent" for CVD because the risk of either heart
> >> >attack or stroke is the same as for someone who has already had either
> >> >a heart attack or stroke thereby establishing the diagnosis of CVD.
> >> >IOW, diagnosing someone with T2DM is essentially diagnosing them with
> >> >CVD.
> >> [Quote]
> >> The effect of diabetes on health is equivalent to ageing 15 years,
> >> according to an article in this week’s issue of The Lancet. Canadian
> >> researchers found that people with diabetes fell into the high-risk
> >> category for cardiovascular disease (CVD)* 15 years earlier than those
> >> without diabetes.
> >The cited retrospective cohort study did not separate type-2 diabetics
> >from type-1.
> >Source:
> >http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140673606689678…
> The truth is the article does not assert that and you have not given
> references for your opinion.
No amount of references will give you the reading comprehension that
you lack.
Bottom line concerning you difficulties here:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/b09fe2cd7fceefc8?
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On 11 Oct 2008 13:16:47 GMT, anonym…@nowhere.you.know
wrote:
>"There remains the concern that more aggressive medical therapy with
>goal of lowering A1c to less than 6 percent would have the untoward
>result of iatrogenic hypoglycemia which can be fatal."
A load of nonsense based on the flawed methods and
conclusions of ACCORD.
Cheers, Alan, T2, Australia.
—
d&e, metformin 2000 mg
Everything in Moderation – Except Laughter.
http://loraldiabetes.blogspot.com (Analysis of a Day’s Meals)
dLife http://tinyurl.com/54get5 (Diabetes Diet Wars)
convicted neighbor Alan S wrote:
> Andrew, in the Holy Spirit, boldly wrote:
> >"There remains the concern that more aggressive medical therapy with
> >goal of lowering A1c to less than 6 percent would have the untoward
> >result of iatrogenic hypoglycemia which can be fatal."
> A load of nonsense based on the flawed methods and
> conclusions of ACCORD.
ACCORD simply justified the concern, which was present before the
study.
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:13:47 -0700, Ja…@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>Try to guess what disease this patient has?
Good read, thanks! And no, I didn’t get it – and check my sig : )
Nicky.
T2 dx 05/04 + underactive thyroid
D&E, 100ug thyroxine
Last A1c 5.4% BMI 25
On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:12:21 +0100, Nicky <ukc802466…@btconnect.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:13:47 -0700, Ja…@nospam.com (Jason) wrote:
>>Try to guess what disease this patient has?
>Good read, thanks! And no, I didn’t get it – and check my sig : )
Yes, interesting stuff.
Here (UK) diagnosis and treatment of thyroid seems to vary drastically
region by region. It’s one of those conditions easily written off as
psychiatric or psychosomatic and often undertreated even when it does
get diagnosed, and can have serious effects on other systems. What’s
worse, often easily treatable.
I hadn’t come across the link to kidney disease though